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Will ducks hit flooded hay fields?

Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:34 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:34 pm
If you flooded a bahia, Florida paspalum or Bermuda field 12-16” in depth

Would ducks utilize this for food or waste of time? Do not have the barnyard grass and smart weeds in abundance in areas I would be able to flood
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:55 pm to
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f you flooded a bahia, Florida paspalum or Bermuda field 12-16” in depth

Would ducks utilize this for food or waste of time? Do not have the barnyard grass and smart weeds in abundance in areas I would be able to flood


Not sure where you are wanting to try this but one of the things I’ve noticed bird hunting for a long time is that whenever we’ve had heavy rains and or flooding in SWLA during hunting season, the ducks Love flooded pastures/grass areas.

I guess it depends if there are already ducks in your area, I would think they’d check it out. Lots of seeds, grasses and invertebrates floating around for easy pickings.

ETA spelling
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37538 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:58 pm to
I’m in the eastern central Texas area. Have killed ducks on cattle tanks before but looking to flood a 10 acre or so field to give them a more shallow area for feeding and spending time
Posted by shadowlsu
BR
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:07 pm to
I'm not familiar with bird law in Texas, but in Louisiana you can't intentionally flood Ag land for the purpose of hunting. Only if it's part of a normal agricultural process, like rice.
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:28 pm to
You are mistaken. You can plant and flood for duck hunting as long as you do not manipulate it. This includes mowing, intentionally knocking down seed, etc. The above applies to waterfowl, not doves. You can plant, burn, Bush hog, etc for doves. If you do it to hunt doves, you can not later flood for waterfowl. As far as waterfowl hunting goes, you can plant a field, harvest an area to create a pond, and leave the rest standing. Grain that falls off naturally is not considered baiting. The La hunting regs give an overview of Federal regulations. You need to look at the complete Federal statute on baiting to understand. It goes into much better detail.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19607 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:43 pm to
Best and most consistent duck killing I have done was over a flooded cow pasture.

Man I miss the klondike glory days.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37538 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:45 pm to
Would replanting an entire native grass plant to a new location be considered baiting?

Say you dig up native grasses and replant them into an area you would later flood. The entire plant not just seeds
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 11:05 pm to
Legal in this case. Page 33 in the La hunting booklet discusses natural vegetation, manipulation, and legality of hunting standing crops or flooded standing crops.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5841 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:02 am to
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I’m in the eastern central Texas area


I would think you’d get birds. Guys on my deer lease in west Texas are from the Houston area and do really good on family land around the LaGrange and Schulenberg areas. Pond hunting tho.
Driving to the lease on I-10, always see birds in the cattle ponds.
If you can flood enough grassland in that area I would think it’d be on.

Good luck.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22171 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 3:41 am to
Throw some crack corn and yes
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12837 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 5:28 am to
Hell if you’re going to plant, just plant dwarf corn and flood it. It’s not considered baiting. You can put water in the corn, just can’t put corn in the water.
Posted by Ziggy Pop
Caddo
Member since Sep 2005
47 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 6:34 am to
We have a cow pasture that holds water from time to time and kill a lot of teal off of it but not much else. It runs along the Red River in southwest Arkansas.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1633 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:18 am to
use to have Stuttgart type mallard hunts in a flooded cow pasture off hwy 311 not too far from where hwy 90 crosses. Backed up to cypress swamp and would flood after a good winter rain. Only would hold water for a few days.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5019 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:47 am to
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I'm not familiar with bird law in Texas, but in Louisiana you can't intentionally flood Ag land for the purpose of hunting. Only if it's part of a normal agricultural process, like rice.


You can plant anything you want and flood it up and hunt over it as long as you don't manipulate it
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15101 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 8:08 am to
quote:

I’m in the eastern central Texas area. Have killed ducks on cattle tanks before but looking to flood a 10 acre or so field to give them a more shallow area for feeding and spending time


I'm guessing you have to be in an area where ducks are congregated and active. For instance if you throw up levees around any hay field and flood it and there are no ducks actively flying through the area daily then it may be tough. A couple of years ago I hunted the north drainage areas adjacent to Lake Palestine. Water had flooded some low lying grazing fields near the creek. There were ducks everywhere because the upper part of the lake held birds. In central Oklahoma any puddle near any agricultural fields will hold ducks. There is little agriculture in East Texas to hold birds though.
Now if you are hunting along the Navasota or Brazos river valleys it may work.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 8:40 am to
Buddy of mine had a lease in sweetlake that used to be farmed for rice but changed to pasture for cattle. All kinds of wild vegetation grew and the ducks and geese loved it. Not sure about a hay field but ducks do like water.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

you can plant and flood for duck hunting as long as you do not manipulate it.


I've always wondered about that. So if you own the land you can plant whatever you want in La, so long as you don't mess with it during the actual season? Or you can't manipulate it for "waterfowl hunting" in certain ways year round?
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 1:41 pm to
The thing to remember is hunting standing, unharvested crops. Harvested crops have no restrictions(you can not dump grain obviously). Unharvested crops are what you must be careful of. You can flood them but not manipulate them. This means mowing or knocking down the grain in order for waterfowl to get to it. As I stated above you can combine an area for your blind, since the area combined has had the grain removed, it is not baited. If you combined it and allowed the grain to exit the combine back into the field, it would be baited. Any standing crops left in the field can be hunted. Any grain left standing that is inadvertently knocked down by your dog or you retrieving birds is not baiting. I would not run a boat or 4 wheeler over it to access the blind. That is a no-no. Most guys will combine a path to the blind if it is not in a levee.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48942 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

but in Louisiana you can't intentionally flood Ag land for the purpose of hunting. Only if it's part of a normal agricultural process, like rice.


Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 2:34 pm to
AHh good to know. I've never had to worry about it as I don't hunt ag land much but its ok to dream.
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