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re: What's the point of no return on training a dog to hunt (GSP)

Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:16 pm to
So not too late just needs more exposure... And if he takes to it great if not this thread has made if clear I can start over with dyslexics pups Thanks wick
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:19 pm to
If he points lizards and dragon flies he will point birds. Take him for walks real walks like along the levee and let him roam...
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:23 pm to
He actually points and stalks doves in the yard but you let him out the fenced in area and he breaks.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:29 pm to
What do you mean breaks?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:57 pm to
Reading that your not done yet makes me feel ok, mines still on sawhorses in my garage. At least it has primer all over it.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:15 pm to
Your main issue will be keeping him under control and reigning him in, if my experiences with late training labradors is indicative of GSPs.

I had a lab we tried to train late who was a powerful swimmer, great retriever (blind doubles from instinct), and just showed awesome instincts. He was a stray we adopted from the neighborhood. Amazingly athletic dog, but we couldn't get him to sit/stay/heel reliably enough for real field work.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Amazingly athletic dog, but we couldn't get him to sit/stay/heel reliably enough for real field work.


So he knew what was being asked but didn't want to do it because it wasn't what he wanted to do? That is what shock collars were made for, they keep dogs honest...
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

So he knew what was being asked but didn't want to do it because it wasn't what he wanted to do? That is what shock collars were made for, they keep dogs honest...



Yeah. That probably would have fixed him, but the dog was around 4 years old when we got him. Seeing as we didn't really adopt him to hunt but just as a rescue/pet, we didn't ever pursue that route.

That does bring up, though: anyone ever had experience putting a shock collar on an older dog who wasn't trained early on one?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:56 pm to
I have not but I suspect that the collar would work the same. Quality shock collars go from zero to a strong shock. You only use enough shock to get the desired reaction from the dog. I know my dogs react to a shock that is just strong enough to make the my arm tingle...
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1316 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:30 am to
He will hunt if you get him in birds. Go buy some pen raised birds and see what he does. Look up some other quail hunters in your area and let him hunt with their dogs. That's the best training he can get. GSP's are extremely intelligent and he'll catch on quick Don't ruin a good thing. I have a female GSP that might weigh 38lbs soaking wet but she is hands down the best bird dog I have ever owned. Intelligence and drive are the two things you want in a good bird dog. You'll regret not giving it a shot.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 12:50 pm to
quote:


What do you mean breaks?




He takes off in a full chase after anything moving/flying. Easily distracted I guess, but I have seen him point and stalk.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:04 pm to
He needs a collar...Dogtra or Tritronics
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12136 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:20 pm to
It's not too late. Send him off with a reputable trainer for two months. Drive is important!
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12136 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Do yourself a favor and buy a GWP instead. ETA: a Drahthaar specifically


My neighbor has one. Those are pretty expensive?
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:25 pm to
Yeah I need to look into the collar for sure
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