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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:21 pm to dnm3305
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The total numbers are irrelevant because everyone duck hunts around here. Of course there will be more ducks killed.
The percentage of ducks harvested per hunter is higher in Louisiana than 49 out of other 50 states. Has it declined in the last 10 years? Very possible, but maybe it's just becoming better everywhere else and closing the gap. Even still more ducks AND more ducks per hunter are killed in the state of Louisiana than anywhere else in the Mississippi Flyway. If it sucks so bad then quit hunting in Lousiana.
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Raz4back
There's a lot of people around Louisiana that won't shoot trash ducks, or dare I say non-big ducks? And there are more hunters in LA according to someone so naturally that means there are more picky in LA than in Arkansas
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:25 pm to Redfish2010
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The further north you go, the more opportunity
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:50 pm to Citica8
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Citica8
I've never duck hunted LA so I can't give a fair comparison. I was just trying to give some perspective on the mentality of the AR duck hunter.
I rarely see post hunt pictures on the OB that are made up of 100% mallards and that's all I really have to go by
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:02 pm to Citica8
You keep bring up ducks per hunter. This is not about the most amount of ducks killed. Yes, youre right, there are alot of ducks killed in LA. This is about OPPORTUNITY. $5000 can buy you one hell of a lease in any state with the exception of LA. $5000 doesnt buy jack shite anymore. Im talking $ per duck, not number of ducks killed. If you have $5000 in Arkansas, or just a boat, you have more opportunity to kill ducks than you would in LA with the exception of only a few places.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:11 pm to dnm3305
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You keep bring up ducks per hunter. This is not about the most amount of ducks killed. Yes, youre right, there are alot of ducks killed in LA. This is about OPPORTUNITY. $5000 can buy you one hell of a lease in any state with the exception of LA. $5000 doesnt buy jack shite anymore. Im talking $ per duck, not number of ducks killed. If you have $5000 in Arkansas, or just a boat, you have more opportunity to kill ducks than you would in LA with the exception of only a few places.
But that's just not true. My brother's hunted public land in SELA with a kayak, pirogue, small flat boat or an old, small boston whaler and killer LOTS of good ducks (big ducks, teal, or woodies) last year. You don't need to "buy jack shite" - you need to put in the effort. The OPPORTUNITIES are out there and abundant for those willing to seize them.
ETA: And when did the definition of opportunity start to include cost?
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:20 pm to The Last Coco
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You don't need to "buy jack shite" - you need to put in the effort. The OPPORTUNITIES are out there and abundant for those willing to seize them.
And THAT's the point. You dont have to get a flat boat to hunt prime areas of Arkansas. In LA, because the price of a horrible 100 bird rice field blind is so inflated, you are FORCED to go out onto public land with every other Tom, Dick, Harry and his dog and shoot birds if they swing to wide from others hunters spread or watch your birds that are working get shot less than 75 yards away from you. Read the title of this thread. There are more opportunities to kill ducks in other states than there are in LA, especially when you factor in convenience.
Unless you have $10k+, a brother-in-law deal, family land, or inherit a blind that has been passed down on a prime location, you will not kill ducks unless you hunt public land with a ton of other hunters.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:32 pm to Raz4back
Much rather shoot and eat teal then a mallard . If a big group of mallards are working our blind and a group of teal sneaks into the decoys , I'm shooting the teal ...
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:35 pm to robins08
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Much rather shoot and eat teal then a mallard . If a big group of mallards are working our blind and a group of teal sneaks into the decoys , I'm shooting the teal ...
Absolutely. We eat all the big ducks first and save the teal for the gumbos and stews.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:41 pm to The Last Coco
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What part of OK do you hunt? I'm moving to OKC in the next couple of months and have mainly focused my internet scouting on western Okie - hoping to avoid crowds.
The lack of water has killed my hunting on public lands in OK for the last 3 years. When there is water you should checkout Grassy Slough WMA, Hackberry Flats WMA, Red Slough WMA, Altus-Quartz Mountain WMA.
OK public land info
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:44 pm to dnm3305
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Unless you have $10k+, a brother-in-law deal, family land, or inherit a blind that has been passed down on a prime location, you will not kill ducks unless you hunt public land with a ton of other hunters
okay dude Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:45 pm to PapaPogey
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okay dude
Obviously, I mean kill enough ducks to justify the cost. In about another month, there will be 20 "looking for a duck blind in La" threads started per week, and every single person on here will have a laugh and say "arent we all". Good blinds for the right place do not become available anymore. If a blind in Acadiana is <$5k, you would be lucky to kill over 100 ducks out of it.
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:46 pm to eyepooted
California is amazing
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:51 pm to dnm3305
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And THAT's the point. You dont have to get a flat boat to hunt prime areas of Arkansas.
1. Lots of places in Ark you need boats, ATVs, etc.. to access the "prime" flooded timber spots
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In LA, because the price of a horrible 100 bird rice field blind is so inflated,
2. It's nobody's fault but your own if you're overpaying for a shitty blind - that doesn't mean cheaper, better alternatives don't exist.
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you are FORCED to go out onto public land with every other Tom, Dick, Harry and his dog and shoot birds if they swing to wide from others hunters spread or watch your birds that are working get shot less than 75 yards away from you.
3. The areas my brothers hunt on public land they are usually the only ones within a good long ways. They put in the work to locate out of the way spots and then hunt them appropriately.
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Read the title of this thread.
4. I did. It says opportunites. You seem to equate opportunity with physical and financial convenience - these are not the same thing.
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There are more opportunities to kill ducks in other states than there are in LA, especially when you factor in convenience.
5. If you're simply arguing that it is cheaper to find greenheads on private land in other states than in LA, I don't think anyone would argue with you. However, there is undoubtedly, statistically proven, more physical opportunities to kill numbers of quality ducks in Louisiana than any other state.
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Unless you have $10k+, a brother-in-law deal, family land, or inherit a blind that has been passed down on a prime location, you will not kill ducks unless you hunt public land with a ton of other hunters.
6. As I clearly outlined above, put in the time to find the birds and to find the spots others have overlooked and you'll be amazingly successful in killing ducks throughout most of Louisiana on public land FOR FREE. Don't bitch and moan because you're too lazy, too cheap, or not a good enough hunter to kill what is there for the taking.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:10 pm to dnm3305
Clearly your definition of opportunity to kill ducks and mine, or Merrian-Webster's for that matter, are not the same.
You have an opportunity to kill ducks in this state, plain and simple, you just might not be able to afford that opportunity as often as you would like.
The opportunity to get a blind is there but it will cost money that will continue to climb every year.
Don't care to fight the masses duck hunting on public land? Sounds like a missed opportunity.
I'm glad we had the opportunity to do this today... Helped my day go by much quicker.
ETA - I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to work shift work so I don't hunt the weekends on public land.
opportunity
You have an opportunity to kill ducks in this state, plain and simple, you just might not be able to afford that opportunity as often as you would like.
The opportunity to get a blind is there but it will cost money that will continue to climb every year.
Don't care to fight the masses duck hunting on public land? Sounds like a missed opportunity.
I'm glad we had the opportunity to do this today... Helped my day go by much quicker.
ETA - I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to work shift work so I don't hunt the weekends on public land.
opportunity
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 6:41 pm to Raz4back
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The number for Arkansas is probably not indicative of actual opportunity to kill ducks. Nearly every duck hunter I know is mallard crazy, to the point that mallards are all they will kill. I've been on hunts where the group could have limited out and left with only 4 or 5 mallards because no one would shoot "trash ducks." It's part of the reason I quit going, I'm an equal opportunity killer
I have become this way. If it's not a mallard or a speck, I just don't get as excited. I'm not above shooting grey's and pintails, but prefer shooting the green. Hell, I have to beg my crew to stop shooting teal in the am to wait for the big ducks. If we were a numbers bunch, we could kill thousands. I just prefer decoying birds over flybys.
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