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re: Update- Pond Outlet Clogged... Construction pics added on page 3
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:39 pm to bootlegger
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:39 pm to bootlegger
Long reach excavator and a very competent operator
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:52 pm to Tusksup
Got ahold of some pics of the construction.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:49 pm to bootlegger
No trash rack around it, nothing, horrible horrible design. That thing has probably been clogged for years but you are just now noticing.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:53 pm to bootlegger
bet that weird notch has snagged those weeds you mentioned. I might try rigging up a pole with some hookage on it try and poke/pull at the inlet from a boat. Maybe take some rebar to prod and find the pipe.
don't know how clear the water is but a cheap endoscope with a long cable can be had for about $100. Or borrow one from a plumber.
don't know how clear the water is but a cheap endoscope with a long cable can be had for about $100. Or borrow one from a plumber.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:58 pm to bootlegger
The way they cut the side hole into that elbow is just like those low-flow toilets from the 90's, I don't even understand the purpose of that cut.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:00 pm to bootlegger
Question #1- do you already have an "emergency overflow spillway" ?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:08 pm to Turnblad85
Or loop the elbow and try to rip it off? I have no other ideas.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:19 pm to LEASTBAY
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Or loop the elbow and try to rip it off? I have no other ideas
Horrible idea
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:29 pm to greenbean
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Do not do this under any circumstances.
Never invite the man into your life!
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:31 pm to LEASTBAY
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Or loop the elbow and try to rip it off? I have no other ideas.
I have an idea. Abandon that whole apparatus and beef up the emergency spillway with rip rap and gravel to prevent erosion and that's the new spillway.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:37 pm to bootlegger
You are absolutely going to have to get those slats out and put some head pressure on the drain. Then I would get in a small boat and use some rebar or metal conduit to poke around and find the intake and maybe, if you're real lucky, you can get some water moving. If it ever starts flowing it will probably clean itself out with head pressure on it.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:38 pm to deeprig9
Lose lots of fish out of those.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:30 am to bootlegger
This is something that would be a cheap fix that you could try before any destruction. Buy a couple bottles of dawn dish washing liquid and dump down the stack. The soap is heavier than water and will get to the bottom and could loosen it up.
I have unclogged many of toilets using dawn soap.
I have unclogged many of toilets using dawn soap.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:04 am to deeprig9
Negative. They didn't put in a backup spillway. Pond is just flowing over top of levee when it rains now. Only a matter of time before it cuts a trench through the vegetation.....and then she gone!
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:43 am to bootlegger
Better get it figured out pretty quick
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:51 am to bootlegger
Put a tarp over the levee overflow if feasible. I’ve never seen a flash board that tall, but the design reminds me of the beaver proof flashboard DU installs (or used to install) on WRP.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:53 am to bootlegger
If the soil is like a lot of soil found up and down the ms river corridor, yall better figure something before these Spring rains get cranking. Loess dissolves like sugar it seems.
Enough 6" pvc pipe to siphon it down would be expensive but probably not as expensive as getting someone in there to repair a washout the size of a house. It would give some freeboard for the rains and and lower the pond to a depth to make it easier to work on the clog.
Even 4" pvc would help if 6" is cost prohibitive. I haven't bought 6" since before covid and it seemed expensive then.
Enough 6" pvc pipe to siphon it down would be expensive but probably not as expensive as getting someone in there to repair a washout the size of a house. It would give some freeboard for the rains and and lower the pond to a depth to make it easier to work on the clog.
Even 4" pvc would help if 6" is cost prohibitive. I haven't bought 6" since before covid and it seemed expensive then.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 8:58 am
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:57 am to deeprig9
quote:it was done on accident is my guess, looks like a tooth hit it.
I don't even understand the purpose of that cut.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:32 am to deeprig9
quote:thats the outflow pipe, why would it have a trash rack on it?
No trash rack around it, nothing, horrible horrible design.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:11 am to White Bear
The cut in the elbow/intake is probably to prevent a large flat surface like a board from getting sucked down over the opening and entirely preventing drainage
The problem, as I see it from the diagram, is that there is no head pressure on the drain. You should not have to remove all of the slats all the way down to the bottom, just enough of them to get far enough below the current water level of the pond to create enough head to push through the obstruction. It is likely something organic that with pressure will pass, though getting a long piece of rebar to poke and prod on the pond side probably would not hurt
The problem, as I see it from the diagram, is that there is no head pressure on the drain. You should not have to remove all of the slats all the way down to the bottom, just enough of them to get far enough below the current water level of the pond to create enough head to push through the obstruction. It is likely something organic that with pressure will pass, though getting a long piece of rebar to poke and prod on the pond side probably would not hurt
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 5:12 pm
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