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Trolling Motor Removal--Bolts Frozen

Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:51 am
I'll soon be replacing my old motorguide great white on an 18' bay boat. I tried to take the bolts off the other day, and they aren't moving. The big problem is the heads are Phillips, and they just strip when I try to turn them. I can get to the back side of two bolts, the other two are in blind holes. I'm thinking 1) use a dremel to grind off the nuts from the ones I can see and 2) drill the heads off the ones in blind holes. I've never dealt with the blind hole bolts before, so is there anything wrong with that plan? Also, what should I use to fill/repair the existing holes? TIA
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:00 am to
Soak in WD-40 and use and impact driver





If the heads are too stripped, drill heads off and knock out.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:01 am to
I have been close to buying that infomercial bolt remover thingie.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:05 am to
I'll have to try the impact. If I drilled the heads off if the blind hole bolts, I'm guessing I'd be able to pull them out because the head won't be compressing it any more?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

I'm guessing I'd be able to pull them out because the head won't be compressing it any more?
Not sure what's down there, but on every boat I've had, there would still be expanded rubber in there. The bolt has to turn to loosen the nut and decompress the rubber.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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57012 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:10 am to
soak in PB blaster
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

The bolt has to turn to loosen the nut and decompress the rubber.


Yep, that's what I'm concerned about. I think I'm going to exhaust all other options before doing that.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40561 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Not sure what's down there, but on every boat I've had, there would still be expanded rubber in there. The bolt has to turn to loosen the nut and decompress the rubber.


ETA: Usually those rubber pieces dry rot and break every few years. I have more problems getting the bolts to stay in than I do gettting them out.

Fresh water problems...
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by JayWall
Southern California
Member since Jul 2013
84 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Bolts Frozen


Leave it in the sun for a couple hours
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 10:18 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:19 am to
Maybe set drill to reverse and see if you can gain purchase? Is there a backward bit made?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:19 am to
Oh, tip of wood bit might grab.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Leave it in the sun

Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:25 am to
As in use wood bit with drill in reverse? What would this do? You saying something like an easy out?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

As in use wood bit with drill in reverse?
Yes.

quote:

What would this do?
Possibly loosen the nut in the rubber.
quote:

You saying something like an easy out?

I do not know.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:34 am to
I'll investigate that
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:36 am to
yes he is trying to make it bite like and easy out.

I would not do that with a wood bit they can shear and cause all kinds of damage but his idea is decent just get a real easy out for that.


What is between the trolling motor mount and the surface of the boat? Is there space there and little rubber pads?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

I would not do that with a wood bit they can shear and cause all kinds of damage
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Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Is there a backward bit made?


I call them left hand drill bits. I have a set just for instances like this. They can be hard to find though, I got my set from my Snapon dealer years back.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:42 am to
quote:

What is between the trolling motor mount and the surface of the boat? Is there space there and little rubber pads?


I'd be lying if I told you for sure, but I think there are some black rubber pads.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
348 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:43 am to
Yea I have a set of easy outs somewhere...idk if I have one small enough for these bolts. I'm sure o can find either a smaller size or left hand drill bit at Napa or something
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