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Toyota and other mechanics: advice needed (pics)

Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:23 am
So I hit a chunk of metal on I 10 with the undercarriage yesterday (it blew the tire on the truck behind me) and this morning, I have a puddle of pink fluid under the car. It's a company car, 2017 Carry and here are two pics of what's leaking. It looks like a small divot of metal was gouged at the nut causing the leak. Is this transmission fluid? If so, how much would need to leak to prevent me from getting to the dealership? I'm flying out for a week tomorrow and don't want to be stranded at the airport when I get home.

ETA, it looks like coolant, but levels are topped off when I checked.

Any advice appreciated.



From front of car looking back



Close up

This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:26 am to
Just a guess but it looks like transmission fluid drain plug. It looks like you could swap it out pretty easy based on the bolts around the housing. FYI .... I'm no mechanic.
Posted by Stexas
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:40 am to
Does the fluid have an oily consistency? Smell sweet? Pinkish makes me think tranny fluid, but it might be halogen or blinker fluid...
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:52 am to
The five bolt mounted drain plug plate can be changed out
The minor issue from a time perspective is that the replacement drain plug plate will be a factory ordered part
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 11:35 am to
It does not have an oily consistency, seems water based.

Thanks for your answer, what kind of drain plug is this?

Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 11:49 am to
Pull the dipstick on your tranny and your radiator cap (when motor is cold). Now which fluid is it? Both are red but this will give you the answer. I'm thinking tranny cause that doesn't look like a radiator pic.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7873 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Pull the dipstick on your tranny and your radiator cap (when motor is cold).


I thought of that, but there is no longer a dipstick for the transmission fluid in these cars.

One more thing is that this is a hybrid, so I'm not sure how the transmission works with an electric motor providing torque.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Cajun Slick
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 12:52 pm to
That's gotta be Tranny fluid from what you described. As mentioned, pull the tranny dipstick to check fluid level. Was the truck behind with the blown tire a White F350? If so that was my brother You could put a little spot of JB weld on it till you can get it fixed.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Was the truck behind with the blown tire a White F350? If so that was my brother


I 10 East yesterday around 11 am between Lafayette and BR? I looked at my rear view and saw the tire blow pretty explosively but he seemed pretty calm.

This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 1:41 pm
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 1:51 pm to
Speaking as a former Toyota Parts Manager of 15 years that looks like a transmission drain plug. As someone else said, it looks as if that plate can be replaced and that will resolve your issue but it's definitely going to be a dealership only part and it'll likely have to be ordered.

How much fluid has drained out? Is it just a small drip or is a puddle forming?

As you already know, there is no dipstick to add fluid anymore on these cars since trans fluids nowadays are made to go 100000 miles or more. There is a fill plug somewhere on the transmission though and if you feel you must, you can add fluid but make sure you get the correct fluid. Putting the wrong stuff in there can cause failure and lock up.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

How much fluid has drained out? Is it just a small drip or is a puddle forming?


Thanks for the answer, there is probably a cup spilled overnight. I read that it holds 2 1/2 quarts and I'm trying to figure out a plan for flying out tomorrow. I assume that if it sits for a week leaking, I'll be stuck so I'm either stuck at the airport or at home if I get a ride to the airport. Since it's a company car, it's not on my dime either way.

I think I'm going to try to plug it to stop it long enough to get to the dealership when I get home.

Thanks again to all.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:16 pm to
Is this a hybrid? I see some big gauged orange cables in the background of your 1st picture and that's usually indicative of hybrid electric cables.

If so, that's a game changer and that might not be transmission fluid.

In looking back at your pictures, that plate with the drain plug is either on the gear case or if it's a hybrid, it's a part of the hybrid system. It doesn't look to be the actual transmission pan and drain plug. In doing some googling, everything I'm seeing is the transmission pan is a 1 piece pan. So I looked back at your pic and that plate with the 5 bolts is either on the gear case or if it's a hybrid then it might be a part of that system. And if that's the case, that may not be transmission fluid. It may be some kind of coolant for the hybrid system.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:40 pm to
I added in an earlier post that it's a hybrid. It just doesn't seem like transmission fluid, it's not slick at all.

This is great input, thanks again.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:43 pm to
Ooops... I didn't see your later post with you stating it's a hybrid...

Sorry for the multiple posts but I dug a little deeper...

It looks as if your car is a hybrid and that plate with the plug is on the inverter and that is indeed inverter coolant fluid, NOT transmission fluid. Hybrids don't have a traditional transmission and instead use an inverter, aka Power Splitting Device(PSD), in place of a traditional transmission.

Check out this YouTube video... LINK
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 2:45 pm
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:58 pm to
Thanks, any idea what kind of range it has if it runs dry?
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 3:40 pm to
No idea. But I don't recommend finding out. You're looking at 1000's of dollars for replacement of that inverter and it's highly likely insurance to cover it if they determine you knew there was a leak and continued to drive on it. Driving it with low or no coolant will cause premature failure at best and at worst will fry the inverter which acts as the transmission and is the primary charging source for the batteries. It's basically the "heart" of the hybrid system.

My emphatic recommendation is to park it and don't drive it. Have it towed to a dealer and have it fixed. File an insurance claim for hitting the junk on the road and get a rental.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted by 2indapink
Member since Mar 2012
541 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 3:45 pm to
JB Weld and go trade it in. Or if it's on company dime, drive until it blows up and get a new one.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 4:05 pm to
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JB Weld and go trade it in



Hahahaha! You jest, but I did that exact thing to a 1987 Camry when I was 18. Drunk with a few friends in the car and I jumped a bridge and bottomed out hard. Transmission started slipping 3 blocks down the road and I barely made it home. Jacked the car up and pulled the pan and it had a 6" crease with a crack in it. Went to pep boys and bought every tube of JB Weld they had and coated the entire inside and outside of the pan. Drove it like that for another 3 years and traded it in.
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