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re: Taking the dive finally
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:31 am to mylsuhat
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:31 am to mylsuhat
quote:Been waiting for you to show up :nohomo:
mylsuhat
We need an official scuba thread as lengthy as the hiking one so we can bookmark it and add it to the official guide.
Mind giving an itemized list of your gear? (When & if you have time)
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:37 am to Blue Velvet
- Zeagle Regulator
- Zeagle Ranger BC
- two masks (3 window field, all 1 piece of glass, no break between the eyes)
- two pairs of fins, cressi sub rondine and Picasso black teams
- Aries dive computer
- octopus built in on BC inflator
- weight integrated weight bags (4-5lbs, 2-3lbs, 2-1lbs)
- wetsuit and booties
- dive knife
- stainless steel wire cutters (unused)
- gloves (I use fish cleaning gloves)
- mask defog
- 80cf aluminum air tank
- o-ring kit
- silicone spray
I'm sure theres more but that's just off the top my head
- Zeagle Ranger BC
- two masks (3 window field, all 1 piece of glass, no break between the eyes)
- two pairs of fins, cressi sub rondine and Picasso black teams
- Aries dive computer
- octopus built in on BC inflator
- weight integrated weight bags (4-5lbs, 2-3lbs, 2-1lbs)
- wetsuit and booties
- dive knife
- stainless steel wire cutters (unused)
- gloves (I use fish cleaning gloves)
- mask defog
- 80cf aluminum air tank
- o-ring kit
- silicone spray
I'm sure theres more but that's just off the top my head
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:42 am to mylsuhat
:bookmarked:
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:43 am to Blue Velvet
I've been certified since 1997. I'm PADI advanced open water, which is one level above regular certification. They taught me a little search and rescue, night dives, and wreck dives.
As far as gear I have old shite... Scuba pro BC and regulator. I don't remember what brand my mask fins and snorkel are, but get a mask with side view windows. A cheap thin wet suit. 2 dive knives, a metal loop stringer, and a JBL spear gun.
All that said, I haven't logged a dive in years.
I got the shite though...
As far as gear I have old shite... Scuba pro BC and regulator. I don't remember what brand my mask fins and snorkel are, but get a mask with side view windows. A cheap thin wet suit. 2 dive knives, a metal loop stringer, and a JBL spear gun.
All that said, I haven't logged a dive in years.
I got the shite though...
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:48 am to Clyde Tipton
But like what was said earlier you need to make sure you are a great diver before you ever bring a speargun in the water with you.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:53 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
I'm PADI advanced open water,
Me too and I'm not ready to spearfish the deep rigs.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:54 am to mylsuhat
quote:
But like what was said earlier you need to make sure you are a great diver before you ever bring a speargun in the water with you.
Yeah, it's dangerous. I wouldn't shoot a fish bigger than 75 or 100 lbs, and I'm 230 lbs...
The right shot will stone dead a fish, but that's easier said than done.
To me, the real danger is shooting someone else or getting shot. You have water clarity issues, getting excited and loosing your bearings or forgetting where someone else is, and spear ricochettes...
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:54 am to mylsuhat
How long have you been diving and a rough estimate on # of dives?
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:55 am to mylsuhat
quote:
That's your opinion
ETA: though it can be very dangerous if you cannot keep a level head. People that are inexperienced and try to keep up with the pro's will kill or injure themselves severely
I spearfish occasionally. It's an inherently dangerous sport, but you can minimize the risks. Many spearfishermen get overly confident and frequently dive outside of their charts.
Whether you think that risk is worth it is where the opinion gets involved.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 10:59 am to Blue Velvet
quote:
Yeah, it's dangerous. I wouldn't shoot a fish bigger than 75 or 100 lbs, and I'm 230 lbs...
That's a big arse fish
BV, I got certified 5 years ago when I was 17. I have only been only been spearing for 2-3 years with the majority of the dives being last year. I made ~50 dives last summer (most between may-August)
I took it slow, diving within my limits. Diving with people that know what's going on. Learning every chance I could.
No need to prove yourself to anyone.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:01 am to Jester
I completely agree with you. The "that your opinion" comment was just supposed to be a Joke
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:02 am to GonePecan
I've only speared catfish in fresh water and some snapper, amberjack, jack crevalle (The big ones are what I was refrencing staying away from), and other stuff off some wrecks out of Pensocola. That's maybe 15 or 20 off my 70+ logged dives... I'm not a spear purist.
Also of note...
I never liked deep dives, Id' rather 45 minutes at 30 or 40 feet rather than 15 minutes at 80 feet. Bottom time and safety go way up the shallower you are.
The part of certification where they take you to the bottom, and give you one breath to come up from 60 feet or so is not cool. It's cool that it works, but on your way up, I was freaking out inside.
Also of note...
I never liked deep dives, Id' rather 45 minutes at 30 or 40 feet rather than 15 minutes at 80 feet. Bottom time and safety go way up the shallower you are.
The part of certification where they take you to the bottom, and give you one breath to come up from 60 feet or so is not cool. It's cool that it works, but on your way up, I was freaking out inside.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:05 am to Clyde Tipton
I love bounce diving. I haven't been on a leisure dive in a lonngggg time
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:06 am to mylsuhat
quote:
That's a big arse fish
Yeah, that's why I'm saying I wouldn't shoot one. I shot a jack crevalle for the hell of it that was about 50 lbs. I hit it a little far back and it was insane trying to corral it. I got it though... and when I came up I was surprised how far I was from where I thought.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:07 am to mylsuhat
quote:
I completely agree with you. The "that your opinion" comment was just supposed to be a Joke
You forgot to use the joke font.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:13 am to mylsuhat
And have an experienced rig diver as your buddy... 
Started diving in 79. Always used Scuba Pro gear. But switched to Atomic a few years back. Owned 3 compressors, 10 cfm Mako, 5 cfm Ingersoll Rand (which was the original compressor at the old Athletic House in BR.) and a 3.5 Unisub portable. Have donated more spearguns to King Neptune than I want to think about.
Started diving in 79. Always used Scuba Pro gear. But switched to Atomic a few years back. Owned 3 compressors, 10 cfm Mako, 5 cfm Ingersoll Rand (which was the original compressor at the old Athletic House in BR.) and a 3.5 Unisub portable. Have donated more spearguns to King Neptune than I want to think about.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:20 am to mylsuhat
To explain further, for the sake of those that don't realize:
For a regular "vanilla" dive you should be comfortable with your underwater skills (clearing mask, regulator recovery, etc.) and use of your standard equipment, and monitor your time, depth, air remaining, and general bearings (location, etc.) ETA: and buoyancy control - very important but often overlooked.
For a spear dive, you have to do all the above plus: use of speargun and gear, safe shooting, hunting tactics and fighting off the pressure to push the limits to nail that awesome grouper. ETA: also possibly fighting and securing your fish on the stringer, which can be a huge factor if you get into a big fight with one. Also, divers often go very deep when spearing, which can significantly increase the odds of something going wrong and the harm if it does.
NOT in any way to scare off anyone from diving or spearing, with experience all the above becomes second nature, is safe, and incredibly fun. But I'd hate for someone to jump into the deep end too fast, have a bad experience (much less get hurt or worse), and give up diving and/or spearing altogether.
For a regular "vanilla" dive you should be comfortable with your underwater skills (clearing mask, regulator recovery, etc.) and use of your standard equipment, and monitor your time, depth, air remaining, and general bearings (location, etc.) ETA: and buoyancy control - very important but often overlooked.
For a spear dive, you have to do all the above plus: use of speargun and gear, safe shooting, hunting tactics and fighting off the pressure to push the limits to nail that awesome grouper. ETA: also possibly fighting and securing your fish on the stringer, which can be a huge factor if you get into a big fight with one. Also, divers often go very deep when spearing, which can significantly increase the odds of something going wrong and the harm if it does.
NOT in any way to scare off anyone from diving or spearing, with experience all the above becomes second nature, is safe, and incredibly fun. But I'd hate for someone to jump into the deep end too fast, have a bad experience (much less get hurt or worse), and give up diving and/or spearing altogether.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/25/12 at 11:23 am to mylsuhat
quote:When we used to go hard core, we'd alternate recreational dive trips here and there just to take a break from spearing and enjoy the relaxing aspects of it.
I love bounce diving. I haven't been on a leisure dive in a lonngggg time
Posted on 4/25/12 at 12:06 pm to Clyde Tipton
quote:
I shot a jack crevalle for the hell of it that was about 50 lbs.
You put it on a scale? Thats a big arse creville!
No one in the state shot one in the 50# range last year
Posted on 4/25/12 at 12:31 pm to mylsuhat
It seems like there are a lot of people seeking information about diving and spearfishing, and also a few misconceptions or misinformation too, so I'd like to chime in.
I rarely post on TD but I think I can lend some good information to those thinking about learning to dive the rigs. I'm approaching 800 dives with about half offshore on the rigs, I'm a NAUI instructor, I service and sell equipment, and I've also captained dive boats in the Caribbean.
I can try to steer you in the right direction. I can tell you about the best equipment, training, strategy etc. Obviously everyone has their brand loyalties but I'll try to be as unbiased and informative as possible. Ask away!
I rarely post on TD but I think I can lend some good information to those thinking about learning to dive the rigs. I'm approaching 800 dives with about half offshore on the rigs, I'm a NAUI instructor, I service and sell equipment, and I've also captained dive boats in the Caribbean.
I can try to steer you in the right direction. I can tell you about the best equipment, training, strategy etc. Obviously everyone has their brand loyalties but I'll try to be as unbiased and informative as possible. Ask away!
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