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re: So I impulse bought an air rifle.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 5:48 pm to DeoreDX
Posted on 8/11/15 at 5:48 pm to DeoreDX
Spring-piston air guns have a brutal double recoil on scopes. Also, check your local laws on shooting them in the city limits. I have been told by law enforcement officers in BR, they are legally no different than shooting a deer rifle.
eta: don't ever dry fire the gun. the spring piston needs the air resistance of the pellet in the barrel to act as a cushion. and another thing, do not use much oil in the gun. excess oil can ignite under pressure and cause a dieseling effect that can ruin the piston mechanism and seal.
eta: don't ever dry fire the gun. the spring piston needs the air resistance of the pellet in the barrel to act as a cushion. and another thing, do not use much oil in the gun. excess oil can ignite under pressure and cause a dieseling effect that can ruin the piston mechanism and seal.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 6:04 pm
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Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:09 pm to DeoreDX
Would the Benjamin Varmint 22 Power Pack be worth an extra $30 over the River? It is a Nitro piston. I don't really put any value in the laser and light that come with the rifle. Would rather have something durable and reliable more so than performance.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:10 pm to DeoreDX
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Nitro piston
Worth it
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:14 pm to DeoreDX
As already mentioned, definitely learn the artillery hold. If not, you are only in for frustration, and it won't be any fun. Once you get it down though, it will be pretty accurate and I think it actually disciplines your shooting across the board. Different guns like different pellets, that's why most good pellet manufacturers make trial packs. Find the one your gun likes, and enjoy.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:22 pm to DeoreDX
I'm not familiar with any of those guns, but a pneumatic air gun is very different than a spring-piston air gun. A pneumatic (like your old Crosman 880 and most old Benjamin rifles) stores energy in compressed air after you pump it up to 10 times. A spring piston gun stores the energy after cocking once in a spring that only compresses the air when the trigger is pulled.
In general, the better quality and most powerful air guns are spring pistons (like Beeman and RWS).
In general, the better quality and most powerful air guns are spring pistons (like Beeman and RWS).
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:30 pm to Tbobby
Umarex Nitrogen piston FTW 
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:15 pm to DeoreDX
Love the Gamo .177 but I will have to look into the 22 Benjamin. Sounds like you got a great deal. We use crossman pellets..gong to try the destroyer line withe next batch.
The Gamo is deadly ...and my boys can hit a big sized target at 150 with ease....and can hammer nails 25-35 yards.
The Gamo is deadly ...and my boys can hit a big sized target at 150 with ease....and can hammer nails 25-35 yards.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 8/12/15 at 12:57 am to bootlegger
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As already mentioned, definitely learn the artillery hold. If not, you are only in for frustration, and it won't be any fun.
I don't know how I never heard this. I have a Gamo springer that has been sitting in the corner of a closet for years, because I couldn't hit a pumpkin at 30'. It's time to dust it off and try again with proper technique.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:37 am to dragginass
Pricey but a tuned PCP with the magic pellet makes a .22 rim fire obsolete. Fully suppressed, nobody hears a thing but the bullet smack
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:18 am to DTRooster
I'm surprised by the amount of kick for such a heavy pellet rifle. Kicks like my 22 Rifle. Those Crossman premier pellets hit hard too. I set up a 1x12 pine board at around a 30 degree angle to use as a back stop looking to knock the pellets down. Pellets passed clean through the 1x12 and would hit the board I had set up behind it. Didn't just barely hit the board behind it, would hit it with enough energy to make some pretty big marks on it.
1x12 on the left, other board to the right.
Back of the 1x12
1x12 on the left, other board to the right.
Back of the 1x12
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:32 am to DeoreDX
quote:I was surprised at how much power my Gamo .22 had when I first got it. It will fully penetrate a 1 gallon jug of water at 20 yards, and that is with hollow points. They're definitely not your Daisy that you played cowboys and indians with.
Crossman premier pellets hit hard too.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:32 am to DeoreDX
Must be talking about that spring gun. A 14.5 g pellet bumping 1000fps ain't no joke especially when you can place it that noggin. JSB jumbo exacts are the magic pellet for my Marauder, nothing else groups even close
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 8:35 am
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:02 am to DTRooster
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A 14.5 g pellet bumping 1000fps ain't no joke
The fps ratings on those guns are with extremely light pba pellets. With 14.5 grain you are probably getting around 800 fps. It still packs a punch though.
I have 2 air rifles both rated at 1000 fps.
Crosman Nitro Venom .22
Hatsan 125 Sniper Vortex .22
Hatsan gets their fps ratings using lead pellets. I haven't personally done any sort of scientific testing. But from the research I have done the Nitro Venom shoots the 14 grain crosman premier pellets between 750 - 800 fps, while the Hatsan shoots it around 950. And side by side I can tell you that the Hatsan is definitely more powerful from my observations.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:12 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:. Negative Ghostrider, tuning a PCP is adjusting the hammer spring and air valve to achieve consistent FPS from full charge to empty. My gun will string about 28 shots between 940-960 before it drops like a rock and I need more air
With 14.5 grain you are probably getting around 800 fps
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:14 am to DTRooster
My bad, I thought you were referring to the break barrel. Yes PCP guns will definitely give you a more consistent and higher fps.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 9:17 am
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:21 am to PillageUrVillage
Well I did invade a spring gun thread, my bad too
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:23 am to DTRooster
One of these days I'm gonna try a PCP. The Marauders look bad arse!
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:26 am to PillageUrVillage
It is. No wind on a rest it'll one hole out to about 30 yards with a bit of a flyer every now and then
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:39 am to DTRooster
I thought I was doing pretty good at around 1" from 15 yards off hand without really taking any time on my shots. The irons were shooting about 1.5" high and to the right at 15 yards. Not sure what distance I need to zero at. I have zero knowledge base on boolet drop from a pellet to account for different yardages.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:00 am to DeoreDX
You're gonna have test and see what you have. With iron sights Id guess your zero to 1" high to 1" low range maybe 25 yards. With a scope going low, zero, high, zero, low at 1" you can push 40 depending on FPS and bullet weight. I can't really remember I just wing it now that I'm used to it
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