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Posted on 1/2/15 at 4:42 pm to AthensRattler
quote:
Thats gonna have a white belly and be a scarlet snake, Cemophora coccinea
Husband just got home, saw pic, and agrees that it's a Scarlet snake. Something about the first neckband being a bit yellower than the rest, and having a pointier snout. Also agreed on the patternless white belly.
Somewhat rarer find than the Louisiana Milk, so I hope your friend let it live.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:01 pm to AlxTgr
Looks like a scarlet King snake
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:24 pm to Dorothy
Yeah the nose is a pretty big difference between Lampropeltis and Cemophora. After a while you don't need to flip them over anymore to tell. The one in the OP screams Cemophora. I am surprised to hear that scarlet snakes (Cemophora) are more rare than Louisiana milks (Lampropeltis). In GA, scarlet snakes are very common, though seldom seen (except on roads at night), in comparison to our Lampropeltis representative, the scarlet King snake, that can be uncommon.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:01 pm to AlxTgr
That's a scarlet. Very uncommon find. Awesome snake.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:45 pm to Dorothy
quote:Almost positive he did.
hope your friend let it live
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:56 pm to AthensRattler
quote:
I am surprised to hear that scarlet snakes (Cemophora) are more rare than Louisiana milks (Lampropeltis). In GA, scarlet snakes are very common, though seldom seen (except on roads at night), in comparison to our Lampropeltis representative, the scarlet King snake, that can be uncommon.
Not sure if milks are more common or just not as elusive as Scarlets around that part of Louisiana. He says he finds a lot of Scarlet snakes farther east, especially the Florida panhandle.

Posted on 1/3/15 at 8:39 am to AlxTgr
Looks like a La. Milk - that's the holy grail right there. When we were kids, my brother caught one in da parish. Saw one other dead one once. Only two I've come across in our area.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:29 am to Dorothy
quote:Now that I've seen lots of pics of both, I think this is probably important.
the first neckband being a bit yellower than the rest
Posted on 1/3/15 at 10:26 am to AlxTgr
King snake and Milk Snake same thing. They eat copperheads.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:24 am to BIG Texan
quote:Not really. Our King(Lampropeltis elapsoides) only lives in the Fl. Parishes. Lampropeltis triangulum(Milk) has a much wider distribution.
King snake and Milk Snake same thing
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:49 am to AlxTgr
Going w Milk
Red on yellow, kill a fellow
Red on black, good for Jack
Red on yellow, kill a fellow
Red on black, good for Jack
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:01 pm to Mung
From La DWF website:
Scarlet Kingsnake:
Scarlet Snake:
Milk Snake:
Scarlet Kingsnake:
Scarlet Snake:
Milk Snake:
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:15 pm to AlxTgr
I actually caught one this time. Pretty sure we are talking Scarlet King on this one. My first ever.


Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:25 pm to AlxTgr
Same area? Probably a LA Milk. Pretty sure Scarlet kings aren't found west of the MS River.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:27 pm to Dorothy
Ha, I didn't even bother to look at the range map. Yep, has to be Milk.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:33 pm to AlxTgr
He's a cutie. We once had baby Scarlet Kingsnakes hatch--they looked like little striped worms. Where did you find it--in leaf litter or a dead tree?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:35 pm to AlxTgr
First one is a scarlet and second is either milk or scarlet king, IMO.
Didn't read your range map comment. Milk looks right.
Didn't read your range map comment. Milk looks right.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:52 pm to AlxTgr
Scarlet snake. Another indicator is that the bands don't go all the way through the belly they are not really bands
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