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Saltwater Fly fishing Rod Rec
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:06 am
Im fairly new to saltwater fly fishing, but want to start doing it more. I currently have a 7wt, but plan on buying a larger set up for annual trips to the keys and chandeleur islands. What do yall recommend for bonefish/permit/juvenile tarpon in florida or larger redfish/jacks here in louisiana? A 9wt or a 10wt?
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:46 pm to Spider John
Bonefish - 7 or 8
Permit - 9
Bull reds - 9
Jacks/Full size tarpon - 11
Permit - 9
Bull reds - 9
Jacks/Full size tarpon - 11
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:57 pm to Spider John
I've caught baby tarpon up to 40lbs on an 8wt.
reel is much more important with bigger fish.
reel is much more important with bigger fish.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:34 pm to Spider John
Since you have a 7 already I’d jump to 10 for a second rod. If I was chasing larger tarpon it would probably be on a charter hire basis where they would have beefier sticks available to use when the 10 is outgunned
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:05 pm to Spider John
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Im fairly new to saltwater fly fishing, but want to start doing it more. I currently have a 7wt, but plan on buying a larger set up for annual trips to the keys and chandeleur islands. What do yall recommend for bonefish/permit/juvenile tarpon in florida or larger redfish/jacks here in louisiana? A 9wt or a 10wt?
Unless you have a heaping amount of time on your hands I would give up on thinking about catching a permit on the long rod. Musky are said to be the fish of "10,000 casts". It won't take that many casts to catch a permit because in every trip you are lucky to have 3-4 real shots at one. You will see hundreds. Getting close enough and in the right direction is dam near impossible. I read somewhere once that it usually took somewhere around 200 hours on a suitable flat per permit. That's 200 hours of suitable tides and wind etc. Thats going to take a LONG time.
I spent nearly a year, fishing 2-8 hours almost daily, in a river in the Caribbean that was and still is LOADED with permit. I caught scads of Tarpon, bonefish, snook, cubrera snapper not to mention grouper and barracuda and jacks and I hooked exactly 2 permit and had maybe 25 show some interest in my offering. I gave it up. It was too much. I also learned how to chum the damned things over a reef and catch them by the boat load.....they ain't nothing but a pompano or a jack......so I was able to exact my revenge on them but those bastards had me obsessed for a long time when I could have been catching 30 pound snook as fast as I could get them to the boat. Unless one is just bound and damned determined to catch a permit on the long rod I wouldn't take it up....it is liable to become an obsession that is just as likely to go unfulfilled as not. I fished a 9 weight but an 11 weight wouldnt have been too much....the heavier rod will handle heavier line and heavier line is easier to cast long distances in high wind and with bigger tarpon patterns it is necessary. You could have a 100 weight rod and be undergunned for any Tarpon on about 50 pounds if the Tarpon decides it ain't coming to the boat....hell a stick of dynamite wont put one in the boat if it really is committed to avoiding the boat.
The keys and Miami have some big bonefish but most are around 3-5 pounds. They are FUN on an appropriately sized reel in 6-7 weight range. Appropriately sized because most 6-7 weight reels have a spool that isn't sufficient for holding enough backing LOL....seriously those bastards are unbeleivable. There are some big bonefish as well and unless you are lucky and can follow anything much more than 5 pounds you will be undergunned with a 6-7 weight.
Probably 9 weight is the best all around. 10 will make longer casts in most hands with some wind and handle larger patterns. 11 ain't too much.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
If you haven't seen the moldychum permit poster, it's pretty fantastic (the whole series of posts is great).
Permit
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:32 pm to AwgustaDawg
I caught a permit within the first two hours of my Caribbean charter. Sounds like you were in the wrong river.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 6:40 am to Taxman2010
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I caught a permit within the first two hours of my Caribbean charter. Sounds like you were in the wrong river.
Catching a permit within the first 2 hours of the first trip dedicated to catching permit on a fly rod is not typical my friend. I suspect people have done it within seconds but it isn't typical. If it were typical it would be less challenging that catching tarpon, snook and bonefish on a fly-rod. It would be less challenging that catching cutthroat for most fly fisherman. It is widely considered the most difficult fish to catch on a fly rod by almost anyone - I don't how catching marlin on a fly rod isn't harder but I suspect its fairly common to hook a marlin on a fly rod while leadering one is a whole 'nother story. I tried to catch a sailfish on a fly rod for about a year once and gave it also...but I had WAY more interest from sailfish on a fly rod than I have ever had from Permit. Never tossed a fly to a marlin so I have no idea about that but I suspect interest is more common than with Permit.
As far as the river in question goes it is almost on a direct line from Key West to Ascension Bay....2 destinations in the Caribbean with the highest concentration of Permit in North America. The river was and is LOADED with permit. Catching them on spinning tackle is relatively simple...catching them on a fly rod is anything but. Jose Wejebe, Flip Pallot and Lefty Kreh ALL fished this river and failed to get a Permit in the boat - I was there when Jose Wejebe fished for 6 straight days and we kept other boats out of the area and he failed to catch one. They are there, they are thick. It is NOTHING to catch 5-10 on crabs and spinning tackle in a day....they are nothing more than Pompano and all the jacks on spinning tackle.....but catching one on a fly rod is damned difficult and that is the point of tryinig. If Flip Pallot, Lefty Kreh and Jose Wejebe failed to catch a Permit on that river I don't feel too bad about me failing to do so....but I do regret spending so much time trying when I could have been slaying snook and grouper and 40 pound tarpon and bonefish on the fly rod. I was OBSESSED and forgot that time in life is limited.....

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