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re: Ranch owner wants U.S. Supreme Court to hear corner-crossing case

Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:09 am to
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:09 am to
He claims the air above as his property. Hence why them using a ladder to cross over the corner, while NEVER physically touching his property. Is still trespassing.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:12 am to
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He claims the air above as his property. Hence why them using a ladder to cross over the corner, while NEVER physically touching his property. Is still trespassing.


What if they used a hang glider with one of those motors and a prop ?

Does he own the air just a certain height or to the moon
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
2069 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 9:30 am to
He says he owns the air/space above his property as far as it goes. By his logic planes violate HIS airspace when they fly over his property.

Ive lived and hunted in Wyoming. It's about time for the public to be able to access federally owned lands. Many ranchers lease grazing rights to BLM land next to lands they own, and put up posted signs. They want you to think there are no public lands near them. That's why hunters use OnX to provide proof to wardens they are on public land not private.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6965 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:13 am to
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Many ranchers lease grazing rights to BLM land


The ranch I hunt in Wyoming has a track of BLM land that is landlocked by the ranch's deeded land, ~1200 acres of BLM surrounded and nobody is given access unless you are family or damn near family.

He keeps his bulls on that land during the off season. He'll put 20-30 registered bulls there and that can be $400K to $1M of his money. He does have the lease on the property and most every time he's given permission for someone to hunt it they will leave the gates open and he will spend lots of time getting everything back in order.

My point is that most people will not leave things as they found it, their thinking is I'll only be in there a few hours and I'll close it on the way out. I'm not an advocate for blocking land off but there comes a time when enough is enough.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:23 am to
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He does have the lease on the property and most every time he's given permission for someone to hunt it they will leave the gates open and he will spend lots of time getting everything back in order.


Biggest rancher excuse for locking out the public. There are are ways to eliminate this problem, such as installing cattle guards, but then they wouldn’t have an excuse, would they?
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6965 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:46 am to
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such as installing cattle guards


So you are saying he needs to spend $20K (4-5 gates) to accommodate joe blow?
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:23 am to
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such as installing cattle guards

So you are saying he needs to spend $20K (4-5 gates) to accommodate joe blow?


There are many sources of funding to help ranchers with gates, signage, cattle guards, etc. from sportsmen’s organizations such as Safari Club, Elk Foundation, etc., to provide access to public lands.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 2:00 pm to
He can suck a big ol fat one. I'd be more apt to agree with him if it wasn't a corner cross, but this is comical.
Posted by oildog
Member since Jun 2016
94 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 3:45 pm to
If it’s public land, the public should be able to access the land. Plain and simple.
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