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re: Raise the price of ammo

Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:26 am to
Posted by H.M. Murdock
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:26 am to
quote:

The percentage of people who understand this is very small.


The high priced ammo sits while the lower priced ammo sells. The percentage of folks who understand this is very small.

Ex. I went to a local gunshop yesterday and saw 22 for ungodly prices. I went to wal mart and bought a brick for $23. Walmart just won at the free market game because they made the sale.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 7:27 am
Posted by Biff Tannen
Member since Sep 2012
2522 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:34 am to
quote:

The high priced ammo sits while the lower priced ammo sells. The percentage of folks who understand this is very small.



the only good thing about higher priced ammo is that it is there because it is unreal expensive

if a local gunshop has 9mm for sale $10 more a box than wal-mart then it is available, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing

it is still expensive.. and lame
Posted by jsb29
Dothan, AL
Member since Apr 2011
613 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 8:33 am to
Goose island has bricks of Federal .22 for $90. I've seen it there on gunbot for a couple weeks now. It is there for you to buy at your desired higher price, any time you want. Last week they had 93 bricks, today they have 75....they ain't gonna be gone anytime soon.
If adjusting the price were such a great idea, wouldn't they have sold more than 18 bricks in a week 1/2, especially in this market?
Posted by Biff Tannen
Member since Sep 2012
2522 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 8:39 am to
quote:

If adjusting the price were such a great idea, wouldn't they have sold more than 18 bricks in a week 1/2, especially in this market?



exactly, having occupied shelves with product that is overpriced isn't moving and not going anywhere anytime soon isn't helping the retailer or consumer
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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61593 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 8:39 am to
Shut it
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Ex. I went to a local gunshop yesterday and saw 22 for ungodly prices. I went to wal mart and bought a brick for $23. Walmart just won at the free market game because they made the sale.

If selling all of your product before 8am were winning, then why doesn't Wal Mart price everything to keep their shelves empty?
When you need bread, gas, clothes, don't you want to be able to go to a store and find some?
Underpricing items over the long run is not good for sellers or buyers. If the big retailers would moderately increase prices, consumers would not have to pay the small gougers or search relentlessly to find 22LR. The moderate increase would also be an incentive to make more 22LR, which would help the situation .
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:20 am to
I bought 22 ammo yesterday at Academy on Seigen at 11:00a.m. Limit two boxes,
didn't really need it bought it anyway.............does this make me (oh dread) a hoarder???
No I'm not reselling it........it's all mine.
Posted by Biff Tannen
Member since Sep 2012
2522 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I'm not reselling it........it's all mine.


congrats


Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:31 am to
Bet you like communism and our President, too.
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:44 am to
I am not saying people should not buy bullets. I am saying that the price should rise if there are shortages. That is what happens with every product. It ensures that it is readily available to consumers.
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:52 am to
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Raise the price of ammo Bet you like communism and our President, too.


Allowing the price to rise and fall to ensure there are no shortages or surpluses is the opposite of communism. Arbitrarily setting prices which causes shortages and surpluses is what happens in centrally planned economies(communism, fascism)That is why they have shortages and waiting lines for commonly used products like bread and gas.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:53 am to
quote:

If selling all of your product before 8am were winning, then why doesn't Wal Mart price everything to keep their shelves empty?


+1

This man understands. Raising prices would be a win-win. The store (or manufacturers) would make more and the consumers could actually go into a big box store and find the ammo he is looking for right there on the shelf where it is supposed to be.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:01 pm to
The price of fuel should go up so people will become more efficient with driving by carpooling, buying more fuel efficient vehicles and clustering trips to town. Then the gas prices will surely go down.

Oh wait why havent prices come down??
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:36 pm to
Am I the only one who thinks this is an early April fool's joke?

That is the complete opposite of what should happen if you want the price to come down. Obviously they all pay the same rate. One guy raises his prices and still sells, the other guy raises his prices. Prices snowball faster than Jenna Jameson in the late 90s. All of the big retailers lower their prices, the secondary market prices will go down or be put out of business

They're all selling the same product. Price is the differentiating thing here.
quote:

If selling all of your product before 8am were winning, then why doesn't Wal Mart price everything to keep their shelves empty?
You do that when you are trying to knock competition out of the market. Market for bullets is huge and Walmart knows that it will never take that over, therefore, they price their stuff in the middle and don't worry about it. It is volume vs price. Walmart isn't a bullet store, so they set the price low enough for people to continue buying, but high enough for them to make a solid living

This is like 2nd grade econ. The OB has no business majors
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

The price of fuel should go up so people will become more efficient with driving by carpooling, buying more fuel efficient vehicles and clustering trips to town. Then the gas prices will surely go down. Oh wait why havent prices come down??

People may decide they want bigger cars and drive more and use more gas(which is what is happening with bullets), but if the price does not go up, there won't be enough gas to meet the demand.
The purpose of rising prices is not to enforce some social plan, it is purely to trigger more production or reduce demand so that everyone can get the goods.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:54 pm to
on this thread
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one who thinks this is an early April fool's joke? That is the complete opposite of what should happen if you want the price to come down. Obviously they all pay the same rate. One guy raises his prices and still sells, the other guy raises his prices. Prices snowball faster than Jenna Jameson in the late 90s. All of the big retailers lower their prices, the secondary market prices will go down or be put out of business They're all selling the same product. Price is the differentiating thing here. quote: If selling all of your product before 8am were winning, then why doesn't Wal Mart price everything to keep their shelves empty? You do that when you are trying to knock competition out of the market. Market for bullets is huge and Walmart knows that it will never take that over, therefore, they price their stuff in the middle and don't worry about it. It is volume vs price. Walmart isn't a bullet store, so they set the price low enough for people to continue buying, but high enough for them to make a solid living This is like 2nd grade econ. The OB has no business majors

The fact that a consumer can't walk into a big retail store like Academy, Wal Mart or Cabela's anytime of the day or week and find 22LR means there is a shortage of 22LR. This isn't about Wal Mart beating the competition. Second grade Econ would tell you that a price increase is in order.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

The price of fuel should go up so people will become more efficient with driving by carpooling, buying more fuel efficient vehicles and clustering trips to town. Then the gas prices will surely go down.


You don't seem to understand the concept. There are no gas stations with empty tanks that can't sell you gas. There aren't folks buying all of the gas at "retail" and selling it to consumers at higher prices in back alleys and online because gas is priced correctly by the retailers.

I bought a couple bricks at Walmart about a year before Sandy Hook and still have most of one brick. But every time I look at a big box store to replenish, they have empty shelves, just got some in yesterday morning and sold it all in 10 minutes to the same few people.

If retailers handled gas, food, clothes this way people would be up in arms. Why not raise the price to the point were you can keep enough on the shelves to meet demand between truckloads.

What's more communist, setting the prices where supply meets demand, having empty shelves or setting a quota like stores did after sandy hook?
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

If retailers handled gas, food, clothes this way people would be up in arms. Why not raise the price to the point were you can keep enough on the shelves to meet demand between truckloads.
What's more communist, setting the prices where supply meets demand, having empty shelves or setting a quota like stores did after sandy hook?

Agree
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:37 pm to
A couple other points:

- Many people are annoyed because they can't show up at Walmart at any time and buy 22LR. Many of them aren't looking anywhere else.

- IF Walmart were to mimic the sellers on GB and sell 22LR at $50-70 per brick, many people COULD walk into Walmart at anytime and find 22LR on the shelves.
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