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Putting Non-Cell Cams Up High Looking Down

Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:19 pm
Anybody ever do this. I found that the trigger zone is greatly reduced. What say you ?
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:57 pm to
Do you understand how straight lines work?
Posted by ItsBernie
Louisiana
Member since May 2019
264 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:03 pm to
Yes i put all cameras higher up in the tree. Have no more issues with deer staring at them nor people seeing them.
It does limit how much area it will cover but that does not bother me.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:13 pm to
I think the reason you can never participate maturely, in a learning manner is that you really don’t know nothing. I really don’t understand why you don’t just steer away from my threads and not say anything.

Again, like last night, you are displaying behavior much like young kids still in puberty.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:19 pm to
Ok pops. I’ll give you a serious answer.

The camera’s depth perception is limited when you point it at the ground. Because of this, you aren’t going to get as many pics because it limits the area an animal must traverse in order to trigger the camera.

With all due respect : In other words you are a dumbass
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 8:21 pm
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:32 pm to
And you are a punk kid whose parents failed you. If your mother wasn’t on the street corner, she’d a raised you correctly.




This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by SenseiBuddy
Ascension Parish
Member since Oct 2005
4443 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 12:24 am to
Understand how PIR sensors work, and where the sensors are likely to be triggered should tell you how to place them. I have engineering documentation on the brand I use. I actually mark up photos for customers to help them get more pics. The highest I recommend is 6’ high for my cams. That’s based on what I know about my brand.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20401 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:21 am to
It is greatly reduced. I don't know how they work exactly, but lets say they shoot a beam straight out of the camera at a certain angle of 45, 60, 90 or whatever degrees thats basically supposed to be parallel to the ground. That's why most cameras recommend a certain height and angle so animals can't walk under it. At waist level that beam is covering distances from the camera of 5 ft to 50 ft or more. If you are up high, that beam is pointed at the ground and you are basically just getting photos of something walking through that narrow beam.

Basically the cameras are designed for a 2d photo and that's very limited when you move the camera up.

I've also found that checking non cell cameras up high out of sight as in 10+ ft is a PITA. Putting Cell cameras up high is one thing, but you don't want to carry a ladder in the woods to check your camera all the time.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16170 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:38 am to
This is from a cell cam, but I assume the trigger zone works the same in both. I put this one up about 12 feet with a solar panel so I never had to worry about changing batteries. I also had a regular cam at eye level not far away and it doesn't seem like the one 12' up missed anything.



This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:40 am to
Yeah i figured there was a lateral sensor zone . Good info. Thanks. I can deal with the access.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
3996 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:05 am to
If your camera can shoot out 50’ and you put it in a tree 10’ high you only “lose” about 2 feet of straight line/linear coverage from the top of the triangle. The problem is that the angle of the camera’s lens doesn’t widen so you will have a “dead” zone under your camera that is greatly increased due to the height of the camera.

We have 2 high mounted by a feeder. It covers the feeder area very well, but it only catches movement within about 10’ of the center of the feeder.

We originally tried cheap non-cell cameras, but we had to constantly climb the tree to get the card out and it was a PITA. So if you do get a non-cell make sure it’s a better one that you can download/view via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 11:13 am
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