re: Pravda column on gun control in America

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Additionally, if you think I'm ignorant, then what's the rest of the voting nation?

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That's easy. Ignorant. Look at the last election.

all those beautiful guns

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Yeah, I deal with these wanna be intellectuals all the time.

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You're making me blush.


I'll challenge most on this board to step out of your comfort zone and talk to people that have a different opinion.
The result may surprise you.

It's kinda what makes this country great.

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Let me ask you some questions.

1) What is our "gun" problem?

2) What is the best fix?

3) What are the positives of this fix?

4) What are the potential negatives of this fix?

5) Do the positives outweigh the negatives?

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I wish I had the answers to all of these questions. I'll give you an opinion on each, but I (by myself) simply don't have the capacity or experience to effectively resolve our problem.

At least you acknowledge that we do have a gun problem.

I'll go ahead and bite to make you happy...

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creating a huge and deadly black market which may make your "security and safety" less likely than you think.

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roger, go back a ways and click my link about australia.

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FYI Deacon, I clicked on this thread because you usually post something of substance. You have a history, in my opinion, of being a pretty solid poster.

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This undermines all credibility you may have. I have no substance at all. I am full of hot air and general bullshite.

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roger, go back a ways and click my link about australia.

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Got it...

People who generally think themselves wiser (by virtue of daddy's money, liberal arts degree and a JD in progress) fall into the same trap they abhor, which is a minefield littered with cultural and confirmation biases...and think their small world view has all the answers.

None of us do, but we can raise enough legitimate questions that makes their simple world view a little more complex. They'll just call you a redneck and move on in the end.

1) What is our "gun" problem?
A) A national lack of respect, understanding, and experience with guns is our single largest problem. If we all had a basic level of competence/respect, it would be easier to agree upon the rest of the issues surrounding gun control. People would also safeguard their guns in a better fashion, preventing accidents and theft. We would also have fewer handling accidents.
B) Certain people shouldn't have access to guns. There should be clear and explicit laws in place to license ownership and regulate that ownership.
I think there should be a particular licensing procedure for all guns (to ensure that gun owners are at least educated about their weapons and receive proper training).
I can't draw the line about who should or shouldn't have guns and what types of guns...I'll leave that for brighter minds.
(C) Certain guns should not be accessible to certain people. Higher capacity weapons should require more education/stricter licensing.

2) What is the best fix?
-This is the toughest of the questions, there is no one easy fix. There are so many guns illegally owned and available that no matter what we program we implement, it'll take a few generations to actually have any impact.
Nonetheless, we should implement what I have described in question 1. However, we need to keep the special interest groups out and take a level headed approach in our legislature. It needs to be a good faith effort by gun advocates and those against gun possession to work together to create a system that provides proper access to guns.

3) What are the positives of this fix?
-In time, fewer and more isolated gun related incidents. That's the goal, to reduce violence. You can't end it, but you can try to minimize it. I repeat, the goal of many liberals is to reduce violence, that's it.
This part assumes that we can agree that guns give a person a higher capacity for violence than a knife because they could do more damage in less time. Thus, by reducing the capacity for mass violence, reducing violence.

4) What are the potential negatives of this fix?
-Some people won't have access to particular guns.


5) Do the positives outweigh the negatives?
In time, if we all took an active role on educating and monitoring, we would see fewer and more isolated incidents. It would take some time, like generations.

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This undermines all credibility you may have. I have no substance at all. I am full of hot air and general bullshite.

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Faxis - See my post above...

I'll assume that you did not read it when you posted this.