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re: Possible Career change to Mr Green Jeans
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:29 pm to Who Me
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:29 pm to Who Me
meh... a wife behind the badge is pretty tough too.... he loves that shite.. his dad is his boss so Id say its in his blood. I dont think he would be happy doing anything else honestly...
OP: Follow ya dreams man, esp if you have a wife who can help financially and backs you up... Were lucky to have other sources of income, bc otherwise I dont know how we would survive on his income alone. I know that he gets up and goes to work everyday and does something he loves and I want that for him and Im happy for him
OP: Follow ya dreams man, esp if you have a wife who can help financially and backs you up... Were lucky to have other sources of income, bc otherwise I dont know how we would survive on his income alone. I know that he gets up and goes to work everyday and does something he loves and I want that for him and Im happy for him
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:36 pm to computerguy
hey man if you go to BCKFC.org, you will have to join-free. start a thread there asking the same question there is a guy(yak-a-lou) who is a green jean. he will respond
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:38 pm to computerguy
Sounds like the work you are interested in with WL&F requires more of a biology type degree. If you went the enforcement route there are some specialized divisions that you can get into like task force and such but you better know some people in high places. Also, you may get assigned to work in an area that you pick but step on the wrong toes and your arse can be sent across the state.
from everything I heard if you are part of the "in" crowd you can move up quick. If not then you will remain at the bottom. Ive known people on both sides of this.
from everything I heard if you are part of the "in" crowd you can move up quick. If not then you will remain at the bottom. Ive known people on both sides of this.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:51 pm to Boats n Hose
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I suppose I will need to begin investigating plan B and consider getting involved in the Coastal Restoration efforts. I find this fascinating on many levels and also have a personal passion due to living on the water while growing up and watching the erosion occur. I believe they have a building on the LSU campus that specializes in this.
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A friend of mine is majoring in coast and environment at LSU. He loves it.
I just started the graduate program here and it seems like it will be a pretty good path.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:53 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Yeah the Biology type work is where I would want to go however having an IT degree may create a barrier to entry. Wasn't sure how flexible the requirements were.
As far as being part of the 'in' crowd that would leave me in the 'out'. Don't have any connections. I usually get along with people and have had success in my career however I am not sure how far that would take me in this field.
As far as being part of the 'in' crowd that would leave me in the 'out'. Don't have any connections. I usually get along with people and have had success in my career however I am not sure how far that would take me in this field.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 12:57 pm to sloopy
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I just started the graduate program here and it seems like it will be a pretty good path.
He's still trying to decide where he wants to go to grad school. Seems like some pretty cool stuff.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:00 pm to Boats n Hose
It's been pretty interesting these first couple of weeks. Although it's taking some time getting used to taking classes again
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:04 pm to computerguy
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Yeah the Biology type work is where I would want to go however having an IT degree may create a barrier to entry. Wasn't sure how flexible the requirements were.
As far as being part of the 'in' crowd that would leave me in the 'out'. Don't have any connections. I usually get along with people and have had success in my career however I am not sure how far that would take me in this field.
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm a technical illustrator and I'd like to get into wildlife. I'm going just going to give it a try and see what happens. I kick myself for not doing it in college like I wanted to.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:10 pm to computerguy
I may be able to shine some light on this faya brah. I got my undergrad in Wildlife at LSU in 04'. During school I worked as a student at LDWF HQ in fisheries. Awesome student job (didn't pay worth a crap, but fun)! I had every intention on being a biologist and was completely okay with not making a lot of money. No jobs outta school and ended up in the private sector as a consultant.
Went back for my Masters in this same program while working full time, graduated last May. First, you need to go back to school if you are considering either of these paths as a career and I would recommend at least a Master's to open up more options in the future. If your ole lady is the bread winner, shoot for a state or fed job, they are much more relaxed than private industry. For Coastal Restoration, you should focus on engineering side of it. CWPPRA, CPRA and DNR will be doing a lot of restoration in the coming years, so this could be a good opportunity to get in now. I do a little bit of coastal restoration work now and it is pretty cool, but there are a lot of politics involved.
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I suppose I will need to begin investigating plan B and consider getting involved in the Coastal Restoration efforts. I find this fascinating on many levels and also have a personal passion due to living on the water while growing up and watching the erosion occur. I believe they have a building on the LSU campus that specializes in this.
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A friend of mine is majoring in coast and environment at LSU. He loves it.
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I just started the graduate program here and it seems like it will be a pretty good path.
Went back for my Masters in this same program while working full time, graduated last May. First, you need to go back to school if you are considering either of these paths as a career and I would recommend at least a Master's to open up more options in the future. If your ole lady is the bread winner, shoot for a state or fed job, they are much more relaxed than private industry. For Coastal Restoration, you should focus on engineering side of it. CWPPRA, CPRA and DNR will be doing a lot of restoration in the coming years, so this could be a good opportunity to get in now. I do a little bit of coastal restoration work now and it is pretty cool, but there are a lot of politics involved.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:20 pm to toadmanalcatraz
Thanks - toadmanalcatraz
Yeah I kind of had a hunch that the Masters route was the way to go, i was trying to avoid going back to school. The other side is that i would need to take a load of courses just to get into grad school in this area. With a business degree i would need to go through the entire Chemistry/Biology tree just for starters, guessing I would also need the calculus classes as well. By the time i did my undergrad work it would be the time equivalent of me just getting an MBA so it is hard to justify. If i do end up going the coastal route i would probably try to get a job in the building (anything) and then take two classes a semester and chug my way through. Good thing about working for LSU is they will allow you to take one class per semester on the clock so that would help out.
Yeah I kind of had a hunch that the Masters route was the way to go, i was trying to avoid going back to school. The other side is that i would need to take a load of courses just to get into grad school in this area. With a business degree i would need to go through the entire Chemistry/Biology tree just for starters, guessing I would also need the calculus classes as well. By the time i did my undergrad work it would be the time equivalent of me just getting an MBA so it is hard to justify. If i do end up going the coastal route i would probably try to get a job in the building (anything) and then take two classes a semester and chug my way through. Good thing about working for LSU is they will allow you to take one class per semester on the clock so that would help out.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:22 pm to toadmanalcatraz
I plan on graduating next spring or summer , I'm looking at consulting right now. Either environmental, oil and gas, or costal restoration. I will be figuring that out in the next couple of months. I'm doing the professional option instead of thesis.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:23 pm to computerguy
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computerguy
Well, there is a freeze on us for hiring new Agents, even though we need more, its just the way the current administration is at the moment.
Just had a handful of people quit across the state due to monetary issues with the Dept. as its been stated in this thread before, we dont get paid shite. But thats not what its about, the vast majority of the people that work here work here bc they love what they do, not b/c of the money.
Anyway the hiring process is a bit long, you first ghave to apply, and take the civil service law enforcement exam and you need a certain score for that (75/80 I think). If you make it passed that and get selected for an interview then you go to BR and do an interview, there may also be a 2nd interview after that to even further narrow people down. Then you go to the PT test day where you run, do pushups and situps and must meet physical fitness standards. After that there's a psych evaluation and drug screen...then after all that if you are still selected you go to the academy in BR at Waddill. Its 6 months of military style boot camp, where you get POST certification classes, fire arms, swimming, tracking etc. then if you make it through that you graduate and you're on FTO for 6 months with another Agent, then you're let off of that and put on your own on probation for another year.
You're issued a truck, rifle, shot gun, sidearm, boat(sometimes) and a 4-wheeler(sometimes).
There is NO ticket quota to write, just as long as you're productive nobody cares. You make your own hours for the most part, I send my projected schedule in with the hours/places I wanna work sometimes I get it sometimes I dont.
ETA: There are education requirements but they can be subbed for prior LE experience and/or military.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:26 pm to computerguy
Go talk with Graduate Coordinator for the school. They can tell you exactly what you will need. There are not too many students in that program and they are always looking for new people. Not sure if you can make ends meet with just an assistantship, but there is a good bit of funding for coastal research right now that you may be able to take advantage of.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:46 pm to brass2mouth
daylower
This sounds pretty good, everything else was doom and gloom.
For me this is interesting and sounds like something I would enjoy. Also like that they do physical fitness as part of the qualifications. I stay in shape and if this has any weight i believe it would be a benefit to help me get in. However I have 0 experience in law enforcement.
Can you shed some light on how you select your hours, destinations?
How competitive would is it to get a job near Baton Rouge? Are you assigned a particular area, or are you designated for a large region? If I end up in Louisiana I will live in Baton Rouge or the metro area.
How is one considered "Productive"? I see you don't have a quota so I assume that they don't use that as a strict metric of production. Is it a common sense thing and the experienced guys can tell who is working and who is slacking?
This sounds pretty good, everything else was doom and gloom.
For me this is interesting and sounds like something I would enjoy. Also like that they do physical fitness as part of the qualifications. I stay in shape and if this has any weight i believe it would be a benefit to help me get in. However I have 0 experience in law enforcement.
Can you shed some light on how you select your hours, destinations?
How competitive would is it to get a job near Baton Rouge? Are you assigned a particular area, or are you designated for a large region? If I end up in Louisiana I will live in Baton Rouge or the metro area.
How is one considered "Productive"? I see you don't have a quota so I assume that they don't use that as a strict metric of production. Is it a common sense thing and the experienced guys can tell who is working and who is slacking?
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:49 pm to toadmanalcatraz
toadmanalcatraz - good to know I would be much more interested in going to grad school if i didn't have to take 2-3 semesters of undergrad courses. Sounds like they may be somewhat flexible to admissions. Yeah i remember hearing that they were going to be funded in the coming years so that is always a plus.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 1:55 pm to computerguy
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This sounds pretty good, everything else was doom and gloom.
Well theres def doom and gloom in this line of work, like I said especially with the current administration. We've lost out on a lot of money, and its bc of Jindal.
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For me this is interesting and sounds like something I would enjoy. Also like that they do physical fitness as part of the qualifications. I stay in shape and if this has any weight i believe it would be a benefit to help me get in. However I have 0 experience in law enforcement.
I had 0 LE experience, and so did several guys in my academy, but I'm prior military.
quote:All based on the current season and whats going on, during the hunting season you work a lot of late nights or very early in the morning, like 230AM-3PM for duck hunters and such. However now that hunting season is closing and boating season is coming around you will find yourself in a boat if theres any water around you b/c the state gets federal money for boating safety, which basically means the state isnt coming out of pocket to pay you, which being in a boat definitely gets old.
Can you shed some light on how you select your hours, destinations?
quote:You'll be asked during the interview if you are willing to move if need be, but when the spots come open they will be posted for the parishes that have an opening. Mostly you just need to get your foot in the door then try for a transfer after a few years.
How competitive would is it to get a job near Baton Rouge? Are you assigned a particular area, or are you designated for a large region? If I end up in Louisiana I will live in Baton Rouge or the metro area.
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How is one considered "Productive"?
Be where you're supposed to be when you are, make a couple cases and you'll be fine.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:00 pm to brass2mouth
How competitive would is it to get a job near Baton Rouge? Are you assigned a particular area, or are you designated for a large region? If I end up in Louisiana I will live in Baton Rouge or the metro area.
You'll be asked during the interview if you are willing to move if need be, but when the spots come open they will be posted for the parishes that have an opening. Mostly you just need to get your foot in the door then try for a transfer after a few years.
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Ouch. yeah, this is where i may have issues since I am going to be locked into a city and transferring wouldn't be an option.
You'll be asked during the interview if you are willing to move if need be, but when the spots come open they will be posted for the parishes that have an opening. Mostly you just need to get your foot in the door then try for a transfer after a few years.
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Ouch. yeah, this is where i may have issues since I am going to be locked into a city and transferring wouldn't be an option.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:02 pm to computerguy
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Ouch. yeah, this is where i may have issues since I am going to be locked into a city and transferring wouldn't be an option.
I told them I was willing to move, but I had family issues and had limitations on where I would be willing to go.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:11 pm to computerguy
You should know before being hired if there is an opening in that area. When I went through the process there were 3 openings for the BR area. Always tell them you would be willing to go wherever they send you. if you arent then they wont hire you. Get hired then deal with that.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 2:14 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
You should know before being hired if there is an opening in that area. When I went through the process there were 3 openings for the BR area. Always tell them you would be willing to go wherever they send you. if you arent then they wont hire you. Get hired then deal with that.
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Yeah that is how i would approach it. The good thing is that i am currently employed with no current worries about getting laid off so I would have the liberty to wait out the right situation, whatever that might be.
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Yeah that is how i would approach it. The good thing is that i am currently employed with no current worries about getting laid off so I would have the liberty to wait out the right situation, whatever that might be.
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