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Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:27 pm
I’ve been neglecting my pond but I’m ready to put some time in. I’ve had this very stringy moss for about a month and it’s taking the pond over. Anyone know what it is or how to tray? I’ve started aerating and adding water from a well.


Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4155 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:38 pm to
Apply copper sulfate to it and it’ll kill it off. We apply it to source water around the intakes of water treatment plants to kill off the algae. Apply it around the boat motor or trolling motor for mixing, if possible.
Another option is Barley Hay. Apply 3 square bails per acre. Once the hay starts breaking breaking down, it forms an acid that kills the algae off. It takes about 2-3 months though. It’s good to apply around February.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:48 pm to
You’ve seen this type of growth before? It’s almost like a stringy plant that has taken over with common algae mixed in.
I’ll look into that copper sulfate. Thanks!
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:01 pm to
Filamentous algae, been fighting for a while, best stuff I used was citrine plus

LINK

On,y treat half the pond at one time, the wait 2 weeks and treat the other half, if not too much decomposition will kill fish, it takes time, but keep after it
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9389 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:03 pm to
Looks like Chara.

Be careful with copper it is toxic to fish at certain levels. May want to treat half the pond and do the other half a few weeks later because the decaying plant matter will decrease oxygen levels.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4155 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:03 pm to
Do you use fertilizers around the pond that may run off in to it? Phosphate or Nitrates? Those are what feed the algae and cause the blooms. Sunlight penetration + warm water + food = algal bloom

We have treated all types of algae’s. You just need to be careful on how much copper you put in the water. To much copper sulfate and you’ll kill your fish. Dose it how the label reads. All brands have different concentrations of copper so read the labels.
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:53 pm to
No fertilizer used around it. This pond doesn’t have a fresh water source except for a well that I have near by. I’ve got bass, brim, and catfish in the so I’ll have to do some research to make sure the treatment is safe for them. I’ve got a homemade 50lpm aerator that should offset the decaying algae.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:27 pm to
Had the same problem with my little pond that I built for the grandkids to fish in. Neighbor way up above me had chickens in a big pen and I was getting runoff from the chicken pen into the little creek that fed my pond. I put a couple of sterile grass carp in the pond and they cleaned it up in about 4 weeks.
Posted by fishbig
Member since Feb 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:53 pm to
Where did you get your carp?
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:56 pm to
I like the carp idea. They would have to be near full grown to survive.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

Where did you get your carp?


Went to the local co-op and got them off the fish truck when it came through. Fish truck was from one of the fish farms in Arkansas. ETA: They were about 8 inches long when I got them off the truck. You can buy bigger ones from them, but the bigger they are, the more they cost. I believe they charged me $1.00/inch.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 11:11 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

It’s almost like a stringy plant that has taken over with common algae mixed in.


Exact same thing that started growing in my pond. Grass carp ate it up.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

They would have to be near full grown to survive.


Full grown would be about 30 lb. or more. But I understand what you mean. Snappin turtles, water snakes, egrets, and great blue herons work on them big time. Really helps if you can trap out or catch a lot of the snappin turtles OR spend the money and stock sterile grass carp that are already up to about 5 lb., at least.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:18 pm to
Check out this link on the Pond Boss forum: LINK
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:31 pm to
I applied copper sulfate to about 1/4 of the pond and it looks like it’s working. It looks like I might have some plant growing as well as algea. I’m aerating 24/7 and adding water because I’m about 4ft low right now. I’m hoping raising the water level will deter the plant growth.
Thanks for the input.
Posted by friday1728
Member since May 2014
43 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 3:28 pm to
Southern naiad with filamentous algae mixed in. Grass carp will eat the naiad but not the algae. Cutrine granules are good for treating the lake bottom. The liquid is good for treating the surface at a rate of 4 ounces per gallon of water (I think).

After the above treatment, you can use a pond dye to reduce the growth in the future.
This post was edited on 9/2/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by contactmo
Member since Jan 2012
131 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 5:20 pm to
Copper sulfate just turned a very small amount brown. It’s worse now than when I took it on. Tell me about how to obtain grass carp. I’m reading I need a license and about 50 bucks each.
You can’t just roll up to a fish guy and get a few neutered fish?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:08 am to
Some good advice on how to get rid of it in this thread, just keep in mind it is not bad for the fish and creates an excellent habitat due to food sources residing in the stuff.

You will notice lots of insects and small fish using it for cover, the stuff is aggravating for fishermen but great for the fish.

Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5960 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 7:14 am to
I bought a few grass carp off the Dunn’s fish truck a few years ago at the Co-op. I put them in a pond that was covered in pads and grass. It was mostly clear after a couple years but starting to come back now.
Posted by friday1728
Member since May 2014
43 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 8:21 am to
It differs by state, but if you are in Louisiana, you fill this out and send it (or bring it) with a $50 check to LDWF in Baton Rouge. Once your permit gets approved, then you contact a provider to request your fish. They will get your permit number from you and schedule a delivery (or pick up) date.

I think they are currently around $12.50 per fish. Stock at 5-10 per vegetated acre.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 8:23 am
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