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Pond Fish ID Tips

Posted on 5/28/26 at 7:30 am
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 7:30 am
I am trying to have my pond stocked with bass and blue gill. I have caught a few sacalait and catfish and I was afraid that I had green sunfish. When I took pictures of them though, AI was telling me they were blue gill, but it was just weird to me they had a greenish hue to them, so that’s what I assumed they were. Are there any good tips or identifying a blue gill from others?
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 7:56 am to
Green sunfish have a noticeably larger mouth than a bluegill, often have light blue accents around the face and orange tipped fins. Their body shape is longer/streamlined

Bluegill have a more pan shaped body and a much smaller mouth. Often, stripes are present on bluegill, particular in the juvenile fish.

Overall coloration is usually greener on a green sunfish and then tans, blues and purples on a bluegill, but coloration varies a ton fish to fish and even depending on activity level, water clarity, etc... so it isnt reliable.


GS on left, BG on right
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 8:00 am
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
1025 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:17 am to
Okay thanks! I don’t think I’ve caught any of the sunfish then which is a good sign I’d say. I know I need to cull some fish but I’m not sure how many catfish and blue gill and what size I need to pull. I only seem to catch 2-3 bass at a time so idk if I have a strong bass population to start pulling them or not. It’s a half acre pond
Posted by PlootyPlucker90
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
51 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:28 am to
You shouldn't ever need to cull any bluegill. Let the bass handle that. Catfish may be another story. And if you ever catch any green sunfish, throw those on the bank for the birds.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50686 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:22 am to
quote:

It’s a half acre pond
enjoy the bluegill and catfish. It will be tough to cultivate a strong bass population
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
1025 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:39 am to
Any reason why that is?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28993 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:49 am to
I'm sure it's not the correct name, but my dad always called green sunfish goggle eye or warmouth.

probably 2 totally different species
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50686 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:53 am to
largemouth are apex predators. apex predators tend to spread out and manage their population based on size of territory and quality/quantity of prey. it is a delicate balance made harder in a small pond. if conditions are not ideal they will self-regulate to smaller size and fewer numbers
Posted by mach316
Northeast Arkansas
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:01 am to
Rice slicks
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:50 pm to
Called them goggle eye also. I'd stick to all perch and bass if I were you.

Fish that screw up the eco system in a pond really quick:

Sacalait / White Perch / etc.

Catfish

Carp

Posted by The Last Coco
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:57 pm to
If you end up in a situation with a lot of very large bluegill, no small bluegill and stunted bass, you may need to remove some bluegill. If you have a good size distribution of bluegill and bass populations, you still should be removing 10-15lbs of bass/acre annually.

Although half acre is difficult to manage. I would remove catfish entirely if it were my pond but thats up to you.

A pond can only support so much biomass naturally and so adding catfish, especially at that size, will impact bass populations. Either that or you can supplement with minnows and/or fish food.
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:14 pm to
What's the problem with have sunfish along with the perch and bass?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28993 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

f you end up in a situation with a lot of very large bluegill, no small bluegill and stunted bass, you may need to remove some bluegill. If you have a good size distribution of bluegill and bass populations, you still should be removing 10-15lbs of bass/acre annually.



While I do have some huge bream in my lake, I do have plenty of smaller ones. But the bass in my lake are very small. So far this year I've probably thrown out or cleaned 300-400. Still need to remove a lot more. Also need to probably start bringing some bream home to eat.

My lake is close to 10 acres.
Posted by 2Dueces
Member since Dec 2018
362 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:22 pm to
Goggle eye/warmouth is a completely different fish that a green sunfish.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6993 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

While I do have some huge bream in my lake, I do have plenty of smaller ones. But the bass in my lake are very small. So far this year I've probably thrown out or cleaned 300-400. Still need to remove a lot more. Also need to probably start bringing some bream home to eat.

My lake is close to 10 acres.


With severely stunted populations of bass, 30-40lb/acre annually of removal is probably more appropriate. Theoretically you can remove too much but its hard to do that.
Posted by 2Dueces
Member since Dec 2018
362 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:25 pm to
Absolutely nothing.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
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6993 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:26 pm to
Green sunfish will out-compete bass and hybridize and breed out the bluegill in a small pond. They reproduce rapidly, are very aggressive and have a large enough mouth to compete with small bass for forage.
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I have caught a few sacalait


There's where the problem starts, get them out or they will eat all of the bait food
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
4218 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 7:22 pm to
My ~5 year old new 1 acre pond has all bluegill from the start. Then a few years ago I introduced 50 fingerling bass which have been doing good because they are ranging from 2-3 lbs now. We feed them regularly as well with floating fish food. Now I did throw a few sunfish (2) in there last year too. Made some artificial minnow shelters last week and today just put in a shite ton of flathead minnows too. I did cut some cypress limbs and set them in the pond between the shelters and shore to help the minnows get established before getting devoured.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
11137 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:11 am to
quote:

The Last Coco


You seem to know a lot about ponds. Is that your line of work or you just did a lot of research out of curiosity? A neighbor just threw 6 sac-a-lait in the neighborhood pond a few months back and I had always heard that was bad for a pond. I think I'm gonna try and take them out.

We have built a really nice bass population in there over the last 5yrs. It's not very difficult to catch a 2-3lb bass (at least for me).
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