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re: Please Vote : What throws the bigger wave?

Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by The Sportsman
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:43 pm to
We all have conducted "experiments" for x amount of years that debunks your theory
Posted by LetItGeaux11
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:44 pm to
boat on plane

@ 1:06
This post was edited on 4/26/12 at 3:45 pm
Posted by AboveGroundPool
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:44 pm to
i really don't even care enough to go and dig through an 8 yr old textbook to do it...everyone here can clearly see that you're wrong...sometimes all you need is common sense, i know that's a tough thing to come by these days
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:46 pm to
Damnit i have work to do slow this thread down
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:48 pm to
Lets do it this way.

Jester, if a planing hull boat is up on plane does it throw a taller wake than if it's not up on plane?

Going to assume you aren't quite a moron there and answer for you. No. It does not.

Why not?

Again, giving you the benefit of the doubt here... because it's got more boat below the water line to displace the water, thus throwing a higher wave to the side.

So given those two things, I'm confused about what your point is. Are you saying that this boat doing 70 MPH is making a larger wake than one doing 25 MPH??

It's not. But I'd love to hear you explain why you think it does.
Posted by The Sportsman
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:48 pm to
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boat on plane
that boat is all the way up on the pad
This post was edited on 4/26/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:51 pm to
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everyone here can clearly see that you're wrong


Like assuming that a planing hull will perform like a displacement hull until well past 30 MPH?
Posted by AboveGroundPool
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:52 pm to
careful...those "oversized motors" are dangerous...it's hard to see the boat through that big wake
Posted by AboveGroundPool
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:54 pm to
this argument began talking about fast bass boats didnt it? those are planing hulls aren't they? we already agree that a planing hull at 30 mph will cause a bigger wake than a planing hull on the pad running 70+...what are you trying to prove here?
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:56 pm to
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Like assuming that a planing hull will perform like a displacement hull until well past 30 MPH?


Planing hulls will only act like a displacement hull at idle. And even then they technically still aren't acting like a displacement hull. They are DISPLACING water though.
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:56 pm to
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boat on plane

maxed out on plane
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:57 pm to
It's about time. My back was getting sore.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:57 pm to
Hes talking about the wake. The size of the wake and the height of the wave are not the same thing. He isnt wrong in what he is saying. Yall are defining words differently.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:58 pm to
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So given those two things, I'm confused about what your point is. Are you saying that this boat doing 70 MPH is making a larger wake than one doing 25 MPH??


That is not exactly what I'm saying. I am saying it will make a more powerful wave at 70 MPH. Other people are using this differentiation of "on plane" and "on pad" to say that a boat doing 70 MPH produces a "smaller wave." Amplitude is only one of several measurements of a wave's energy. The faster boat will produce a higher frequency and faster moving series of smaller waves than the boat moving slower.

However, the original point was that these guys should be courteous and not treat people's backyards as racetracks because they are tournament fishermen. As I stated in the original thread, it is more of a safety thing than wake, but I screwed up and mentioned wake so all the CENLA boys want to justify their bass/race boat behavior by grasping to that part of the statement.

Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 3:58 pm to
#1 although at 30 mph you are still planing but i get your point. Plowing through the water at displacement speeds shoots a much larger wave than planing.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 4:00 pm to
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careful...those "oversized motors" are dangerous...it's hard to see the boat through that big wake


I'm not even watching the video as it is irrelevant to that statement. I just hope none of you boys kill anyone in your race to fish.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 4:00 pm to
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The size of the wake
What are the real world observable differences between wakes of different size?
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

this argument began talking about fast bass boats didnt it? those are planing hulls aren't they? we already agree that a planing hull at 30 mph will cause a bigger wake than a planing hull on the pad running 70+...what are you trying to prove here?


This argument started about the BASS guys that treat our bayous like their personal racetrack with no regards for the safety and property of local landowners.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 4:02 pm to
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What are the real world observable differences between wakes of different size?


Amplitude, wavelength, frequency are the three important ones.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 4/26/12 at 4:04 pm to
OK, but the only thing that does the damage people get pissed about is the amplitude of the wave. The energy transmitted to the water by the screw is only an issue if you're right behind it because it interferes with itself.

HAVE WE SERIOUSLY JUST SPENT ALL DAY ARGUING THIS shite???

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