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re: Ozonics (and scent control in general)

Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:50 pm to
The question was if they work/help, and opinions on ozonics. The problem is that people said they don’t work when the same people have never used one.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25183 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Play the wind....


What do you do when the wind swirls? I like to hunt every chance I get. Not going because Of the wind isn’t an option.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6434 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

opinions on ozonics


And my opinion on ozonics is if you are doing everything else right, it is unnecessary.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25183 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
Ozone works. That’s why commercial cleaners use the units after a fire to rid the building of the smell of smoke.

There’s absolutely zero arguing with that.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:13 pm to
That’s a fair and good opinion. I also agree that you don’t have to have one to bow hunt.

At the same time I believe they help eliminate your scent. I have been using them since 2012. I have had loads of deer downwind that should have smelled me but didn’t, and the only common denominator is ozonics. For that reason I do believe that they are a useful tool for hunting.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:49 am to
Edge of cleaning and monster pine trees typically, I climb as high as I can go. But I am in good climber and rifle hunting not bow. I tie my gun rope at 50 feet and try to climb until I get to the end. It all depends. Bow hunters there were always over 30. A lot of old growth and good climbing trees. Crazy shite that high up to see a group of deer suddenly smell you 100s if yards away, but it happens.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:55 am to
Iowa and Missouri is where the dumb deer just walk right too you right? Deer down here are often hunted year round or have been historically and can be very skittish. I have noticed most of the guys that piss on all this are midwestern guys.

Don’t shite on someone else unless you have walked a mile in their boots. Every area is different, just try out different things until you find out what works for you.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6434 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 7:50 am to
Whitetail deer are skittish? Tell me more!
Posted by tigerj22
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
179 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:01 am to
I bought a scentlok portable ozone generator. Used for the first time this weekend. I feel like it worked well. Had several deer down wind and close with no issues.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14606 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:06 am to
Did you use it in a tree? Is it quiet enough to do so?
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

Proper stand location and height are what have netted all of my bow kills. Early season I like the to hunt over isolated water sources after using multiple cameras to establish ingress and egress patterns. From there it's finding my tree to take advantage of the terrain and my path in and out.



This is a fantastic way to approach it.

On the few times I had full access in Kansas and MO to hunt I did very well despite limited scouting because ingress and egress patters are so well defined along draws, ridges, and tree lines between CRP, thickets, and dense woods to the multiple wheat, corn, and other crops fields.

I mean in Kansas the trees run along the creeks which are like veins in the landscape funneling down to valleys where the plentiful crops are.

And along all of those areas BIG mature relatively straight trees grow that are perfect for getting higher in.






Where I hunt sweet gum, crooked white oak, multi trunked and limbed water oak, paper shell pecan, cedar elm, mountain cedar, and red oak trees grow in dense thickets on relatively flat ground surrounded by large open cattle pastures of costal bremuda. The land is divided into irregularly parcels and perimeter and cross fenced extensively. The property itself is overlaid with a network of oil and gas access roads of wonderfully loud caliche rock. The overall property is scattered with multiple cattle tanks and ponds along with some smaller creeks. The individual properties have all been broken in large sections for each hunter nearing 15 to 20 square acres each.

Establishing a "pattern of ingress and egress" is nearly impossible. Big mature bucks may stay within their same 2-3 acre dense wooded area because they have water, food, and protection there. When the land is large and flat and all woods have preferred mast, the deer simply wander where ever they please. Patterns when established don't last long and are subject to change due to the cattle rancher moving cattle, the neighbor deciding to operate a shooting range, the gas guys installing a new pump, another hunter putting in a feeder, or simply perceived pressure from me scouting or hunting. During the rut of course they move but there pattern is wherever the doe in heat happens to lead them.

When I am able establish a pattern, finding a funnel or choke point with a good tree, in bow range, that will allow me to get above 20', much less 2 trees (so I can hunt either a S or N wind) is next to impossible. In many cases the thickness of the still green throughout hunting season canopy prevents getting higher because it is impossible to shoot through. Finding all of that with quiet undetectable path in and out is the diamond in the rough.

Like many, I assume, I get to hunt when I get to hunt. I can plan to hunt specific weeks or moon phases but I certainly cant just take off because the wind is right. So, always hunting the correct wind may leave me never hunting the buck I have seen on camera.

So, yes, you make some good points but I don't think your process or suggestions will always work for every situation.


This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6434 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:31 am to
quote:

sections for each hunter nearing 15 to 20 square acres each.


Just so I'm clear on this, you are hunting within 3733ish' perimeter? If so, how much of that area is timber?
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:10 am to
I'll post a google maps photo when back at a computer. Maybe you can teach em something.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7729 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:24 am to
absolute must have when there is no wind and temp is mild to hot>
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6434 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:49 am to
I may learn something too. Your available area sounds like some places I hunted when I was stationed in Georgia and South Carolina. I assume you are hunting in Texas?
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 10:53 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:59 am to
East tx
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14606 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:09 am to
I just ordered one of these. I’ll report back.


Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:53 am to
What is that?
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1762 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 1:53 pm to
Hunt only favorable winds
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4639 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
This thread got me thinking about article I read once.This guy had theory that deer were instinctively afraid of meat eating animals and the odors they give off.He said he would go vegetarian about a month before deer season and eat no animal products during deer season.He claimed his success rate went way up,he was a bow hunter.Sounds plausible.
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