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re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted on 12/27/15 at 12:49 pm to ChatRabbit77
Posted on 12/27/15 at 12:49 pm to ChatRabbit77
Do you guys typically build your upper from a stripped upper or do you guys usually buy them complete and just pop them onto the lower?
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Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:01 pm to finchmeister08
most people just buy compelete, but uppers are my favorite thing to put together from scratch
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:25 pm to Carson123987
Is it cheaper to build from scratch? Palmetto has a few deals left for complete uppers that leads me to believe that going the complete route is cheaper. However, I feel like buying a complete upper would be cheating the experience of building my first AR.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 1:36 pm to finchmeister08
not really. to have any savings that aren't negligible, you have to camp out and wait for savings
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:41 am to Carson123987
Question, I just put my lower together and a buddy of mine is suggesting using graphite powder as lube instead of oil. I've read everywhere that this could cause harm to the aluminum receivers. Any of this true?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 1:26 am to finchmeister08
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graphite powder
Graphite itself isn't directly harmful to aluminum. However, it is electrically conductive which has the potential to be harmful over time. The anodization should be protective of the aluminum surface, but it isn't worth the slight risk or any sort of loss of peace of mind by deviating from best practices.
You should use a lubricant that is specifically designed for aluminum and steel firearms, period. There is no reason to do otherwise and deviating from this is simply asking for trouble.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:22 am to Ace Midnight
What could it do? I tried finding pictures of graphite damage to ar15 on google images but nothing showed up. I've read that graphite is a harder metal than aluminum and it has a sand paper type of effect which can wear down parts.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:46 am to finchmeister08
How come a highly approved company like BCM only reccomends higher quality ammo? BCM owners claim cheap ammo like wolf will not cycle, or sometimes short strike. Mainly in their 14.5 mid and shorter.
To me a weapon that can't fire at will is no good. Lesser name brand ARs would be looked down upon if they didn't shoot.
To me I want a weapon that will fire anything every single time. But yet BCM gets high praises.
Not knocking BCM I do like their products
To me a weapon that can't fire at will is no good. Lesser name brand ARs would be looked down upon if they didn't shoot.
To me I want a weapon that will fire anything every single time. But yet BCM gets high praises.
Not knocking BCM I do like their products
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:52 am to Crawdaddy
This is why damn near every AR barrel on the market is over gassed today. Shitty ammo is just that. It has all kinds of problems that pop up regularly in a batch, such as being under powdered, bullets not seated correctly, etc.
I don't know how BCM cuts their ports but it sounds like they are one of the few companies that is not giving in. Other companies have folded and cut their gas ports well over spec so that when people shooting shite ammo get to an under powered round it will cycle, and good ammo will over cycle it. Manufacturers don't want someone buying their rifle then complaining it wont cycle reliably. With the amount of people shooting shitty wolf and similar brands they think it makes sense to over gas the rifle. Most customers can't tell if a rifle is over gassed. This seemingly solves the problem. Not having the gas tuned correctly will wear the rifle faster.
Then in a move of pure genius, the market makes money selling you aftermarket buffer systems and adjustable gas blocks to tame over gassed rifles the consumer demands.
I don't know how BCM cuts their ports but it sounds like they are one of the few companies that is not giving in. Other companies have folded and cut their gas ports well over spec so that when people shooting shite ammo get to an under powered round it will cycle, and good ammo will over cycle it. Manufacturers don't want someone buying their rifle then complaining it wont cycle reliably. With the amount of people shooting shitty wolf and similar brands they think it makes sense to over gas the rifle. Most customers can't tell if a rifle is over gassed. This seemingly solves the problem. Not having the gas tuned correctly will wear the rifle faster.
Then in a move of pure genius, the market makes money selling you aftermarket buffer systems and adjustable gas blocks to tame over gassed rifles the consumer demands.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:56 am to Propagandalf
Anyone have an opinion on this complete upper?
I don't know much about ARs. Thanks!
I don't know much about ARs. Thanks!
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:47 am to Propagandalf
maybe so but I rather a rifle that I can pick up grab what ever ammo is laying around and shoot.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:20 am to Crawdaddy
The 14.5 midlength is really the only one that may have problems with crappy ammo. The 16" midlength should cycle everything.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:23 am to burgeman
My Noveske is a 13.7 midlength. No problems at all. Also, the KX5 and KX3 help with undergassed guns a bit. The inside is essentially a baffle that redirects a little bit of gas back into the action.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 2:34 pm to Crawdaddy
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maybe so but I rather a rifle that I can pick up grab what ever ammo is laying around and shoot.
I feel you and that is not an unreasonable request. I just think it strange sometimes who the consumer chooses to hold responsible. Instead of demanding Wolf make more reliable ammunition, the market demands Rifle manufacturers alter the design so that it can cycle bad ammo. Another example is when Magpul was, maybe still is, screwing up the M3 Pmags and they wouldn't engage the bolt catch reliably. Instead of customers holding Magpul responsible they complained to AR manufacturers, some of who actually altered their magwell design to comply with Magpuls out of spec mags.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 3:52 pm to Propagandalf
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I just think it strange sometimes who the consumer chooses to hold responsible. Instead of demanding Wolf make more reliable ammunition, the market demands Rifle manufacturers alter the design so that it can cycle bad ammo.
Completely different IMO. People pay good money for a BCM rifle and expect it to perform reliably. People pay shite money for Wolf and expect it to perform like shite. My previous AR was PSA lower with a Spikes upper. I exclusively ran shite ammo through that thing and never had a problem.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:16 pm to Propagandalf
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complained to AR manufacturers, some of who actually altered their magwell design to comply with Magpuls out of spec mags.
so true. I have an older serial of the Noveske Gen II lower, which aren't compatible with M3 pmags. noveske just modified the lwoer to accept it. what a crock of shite
on another note, I just got a Sig MPX + sig brace for free (sold a lot of sigs). Is it even worth it to SBR this guy?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:18 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Kind of missed the point. The Spikes probably has a .085 gas port, which will cycle the under powered ammo and put more stress than intended on the rifle under normal firing conditions. BCM puts together a good rifle that performs well to spec. THe fact it doesn't cycle ammo it is not intended to shoot, the occasional under powered Wolf round, has no bearing on the quality of the rifle. What type of gas do you put in your car? Do you consider it unreliable because it can't use all three common types or jet fuel reliably?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:41 pm to Carson123987
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I just got a Sig MPX + sig brace for free (sold a lot of sigs). Is it even worth it to SBR this guy?
I would if you intend on keeping it. It is very gassy when suppressed from what I hear though.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:43 pm to finchmeister08
What could graphite do to the aluminum? I tried finding pictures of graphite damage to ar15 on google images but nothing showed up. I've read that graphite is a harder metal than aluminum and it has a sand paper type of effect which can wear down parts.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 5:28 pm to finchmeister08
Why?
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