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Natural gas for seafood boil

Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
745 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:16 pm
I'm thinking about having a natural gas line installed in my outdoor area for when I boil seafood. Is this a good idea? I've heard of concerns that it would not produce enough heat. Anyone have experience with it? I will also have a hot water line near it so I can fill my pot with hot water instead of cold.
Posted by cajun12
Houma, LA
Member since Sep 2004
2461 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:34 pm to
My dad has had one for 30 years and never had a problem with it producing enough heat
Posted by Tactical Insertion
Member since Feb 2011
3205 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 1:51 pm to
I've heard that you don't fill your container with hot water before you are about to boil.

Since the hot water comes from the hot water tank, it is liable to have sediment and other things in it which affects the boiling point, raising it so that it is way hotter than it should be. Could be an old wives tale tho.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12739 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

I've heard that you don't fill your container with hot water before you are about to boil.


I've heard similar, but not about a raised boiling point. It was more about impurities in the tank, and after having mine worked on and two dielectric unions replaced, I see where it can have sediment in it. The tubes/pipes had corroded badly over the years. I still flush mine out a couple times a year, not sure how much it helps. But any time I'm filling a pot to boil (not crawfish, but on the stove for other cooking) I use cold tap water.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1319 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:16 pm to
I had the same decision to make two years ago for my shop being built. My choice was a NG line extension from my house or a large bottle propane system. The price was close to the same. My plumber "who lost the job" recommended the propane bottle because the NG pressure to a typical home is in ounces and he was concerned about the lack of BTU's for boiling.

I went with the vertical 120-gallon propane tank with a 5# regulator with the propane company installing everything. The only problem is the lines can't be inside of a wall and the tank has to be a certain distance from a door or window. It has plenty of BTU's. I boil a lot of seafood and after a year it was at 40%. I called the company and they sent a truck to top it off.

Last year I installed a NG whole house generator and had to change out my residential meter to a larger 2# one. The generator runs off the 2# pressure but the house piping is regulated down to normal ounces pressure.

Looking back I would make the same decision today and go with the propane tank.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
745 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:21 pm to
Thanks for the info. U guys brought up some things I wasn't thinking of.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12739 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I went with the vertical 120-gallon propane tank


My aunt has a similar system at her house, but they don't have gas lines in their small town. She wanted it for a gas fireplace and to connect to a generator in case of emergencies. She calls them every fall to come top it off and it usually is still half full.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15105 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 2:41 pm to
BTUs are BTUs no matter the fuel. I would go with natural gas for the convenience and most likely cost of fuel (dependent upon cost in your area)

Natural gas contains approximately 1,030 BTU per cubic foot and propane contains 2,490 BTU per cubic foot, we can easily derive each fuel's cost per BTU and compare their differences in price for more realistic volumes.

Let's assume the cost for natural gas is $15.00 per 1,000 cubic feet. This means that $15.00 will purchase approximately 1.03 million BTU's of energy. This would be equivalent to 11.26 gallons of propane. At $2.50 per gallon of propane, natural gas would be a more cost effective energy solution. Breaking it down even further, natural gas needs to be more than $28.00 per 1,000 cubic feet for propane to be a more cost effective energy solution (provided the cost for propane is $2.50 per gallon.)

Bottom line make sure you buy a natural gas burner that puts out enough BTUs to efficiently heat the amount of water you're trying to boil.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
1895 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:20 pm to
I don't eat boiled seafood, but have been frying turkeys and blackening fish on my natural gas burner for 15+ years with no issue, you can also get a burner with jets designed for natural gas methinks.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30792 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 3:35 pm to
Makes sense.

Only place we use natural gas is at my moms. She's got a well. We always use hot water because it cuts the time in half to bring it to a boil.

Makes the time a lot closer to propane timing.

Its boiling so I'm to worried about impurities.
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1024 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:17 pm to
LINK
Never look back... had one for 3 years
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1319 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:41 pm to
Another reason I like my home propane system, it is possible to be portable with the same burners by using the gas grill type bottles. I have three propane fueled burners, one for boiling, one for frying and a gas grill.

I have a two sack pot, can easily fry fairly large amounts food and cook a lot of hamburgers/hot dogs at one time. It comes in handy when feeding a crowd of people at the camp, neighbors/friends house, festivals, tailgating, fundraisers for schools and non profit organizations or the ball park.

I have used it at least 7 times in this manner over the last two years.



This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30029 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:26 pm to
natural gas works great, takes about twice as long to bring it to a boil though but returns to a boil quickly and cooks great.

made my own for just a little money and it works great right off of any regular gas line in you house where you can tap into the line for it.

I have been using it now for 4 years now

these videos show you how I made it and how well it works

how to make it LINK

see it in action LINK
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56036 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:29 pm to
Natural gas works fine for boiling seafood...just a couple of things to remember:

- you'll need more than the normal .25# of pressure that your house runs on, so tell the gas company up front.

- you have to get a burner that is jetted for natural gas use, a propane burner puts too much air in the stream.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30029 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:33 pm to
quote:


- you'll need more than the normal .25# of pressure that your house runs on, so tell the gas company up front.


you are wrong about the pressure, the regular house gas pressure is all you need unless you are trying to run a giant commercial sized burner system.

see my video above for proof
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Coppertone
LA
Member since Aug 2013
345 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:03 am to
Have you ever seen the inside of cold water pipes? Full of junk.
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
745 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:06 am to
Thanks for the demonstration! Hate that it does take twice as long to come to a boil, but guess it comes with the territory.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5911 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Hate that it does take twice as long to come to a boil


You're thinking about it the wrong way. That is more time you have to drink beer.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:27 am to
Damn engineers.
Just get a pot and light a fire. Drinking and BSing while the water boils is half the fun.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2923 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

BTUs are BTUs no matter the fuel. I would go with natural gas for the convenience and most likely cost of fuel (dependent upon cost in your area)


Well, potential BTUs are potential BTUs. There are other factors - like the pressure difference - that will affect what kind of equipment you will be able to use which may, in turn, affect such things as how long it takes to bring the water to boil. As long as the OP is willing to use equipment made for NG, and that satisfies his needs then no problem.

For example: for me, using natural gas would lead to duplication issues. I can't use my boiler with NG and would have to have separate boilers for on-site versus off-site boiling.
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