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Looking for a turkey lease for next year
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:41 am
Hey fellas. Looking around for a turkey lease for next year. Hopefully within a couple of hours of BR. If y’all know of any openings/properties, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Thanks
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:15 pm to tomcatrav
Best of luck to you, there are likely hundreds on here looking for the same thing. Especially turkeys
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:18 pm to tomcatrav
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next year.
Next couple years are going to suck. A bunch of nests have been destroyed in the last week with all the rain. Hens weren't able to sit like they needed to. Got a bunch having to re-nest, hence the reason why folks are seeing a bunch of gobblers with hens right now. You should buy a bass boat for the next couple years.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:20 pm to tomcatrav
I have a large track along coastal La. I would lease to you. I've never seen a turkey there, does that make a difference?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:21 pm to tenfoe
Didn’t even hear a bird this am. Drove out and it looked like a 3 way was about to go down on a ROW.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:45 pm to tomcatrav
I have been looking for sevral years. I hav even offered to pay a full membership on places just to turkey hunt. Seems like as soon as I mention turkey hunting the openings always disappear.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:45 pm to Capt ST
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Didn’t even hear a bird this am.
You're the 4th person I know hunted a place with turkeys this morning that didn't hear one.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:01 pm to tenfoe
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You're the 4th person I know hunted a place with turkeys this morning that didn't hear one.
Any of them in North MS?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:09 pm to tenfoe
The properties I hunt in North Central LA are as good of turkey hunting properties as there are in the state and this year has been strangely quiet for the most part. I was out of town opening morning but my dad killed a bird and said there were 4 or 5 more longbeards gobbling a lot and a few jakes gobbling. Said it was the most gobbling he's heard in a long time. Then the rain came and all the bottoms flooded and they went into stealth mode for two weeks. I didn't hear a single gobble until Friday morning when a bird gobbled twice a little after 6:00. Fast forward to yesterday morning and there was a bird gobbling his head off on the roost. Flew down, strutted for 10-15 minutes, then walked down a logging road and I shot him. Everything was as perfect as you could plan it. Seems like most people I talk to that have good hunting properties are seeing the same type of behavior.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:04 pm to Woodbird
coworker and I had interesting convo other day
he thinks the "gobbling gene" is getting bred out of them
turkeys that gobble on the ground get killed either by or predator or person
then we started talking about rattlesnakes and how we see them often but never hear them rattle
same thing - you rattle, you die
deep thoughts
discuss
he thinks the "gobbling gene" is getting bred out of them
turkeys that gobble on the ground get killed either by or predator or person
then we started talking about rattlesnakes and how we see them often but never hear them rattle
same thing - you rattle, you die
deep thoughts
discuss
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
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he thinks the "gobbling gene" is getting bred out of them
turkeys that gobble on the ground get killed either by or predator or person
Your coworker is an idiot.
Top 3 factors in gobbling activity are timing in breeding cycle, weather, and number of 2 yr old turkeys.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:59 pm to tenfoe
hunting pressure can trump all those in heavily hunted populations despite timing of breeding cycle, weather, and even number of two year olds
birds remain quiet when they get hunted hard there is no debate
just interesting convo
birds remain quiet when they get hunted hard there is no debate
just interesting convo
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:01 pm to Da Hammer
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Especially turkeys
I’m guessing I’m out of the loop here, but why?
Are there just not a whole lot of places open for turkey hunters?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:06 pm to Ron Cheramie
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birds remain quiet when they get hunted hard there is no debate
I will debate you on that. Turkeys are really dumb. They are just really paranoid. They are genetically programmed to do certain things. They all hatch the same, fly at the same age, breed exactly the same, and react the same to most stimuli. They are little computers. They don't have the ability to care about if someone called to them the day before.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:10 pm to tenfoe
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I will debate you on that. Turkeys are really dumb. They are just really paranoid. They are genetically programmed to do certain things. They all hatch the same, fly at the same age, breed exactly the same, and react the same to most stimuli. They are little computers. They don't have the ability to care about if someone called to them the day before.
You really think pressure has no effect on turkeys and their behavior?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:41 pm to tenfoe
all turkeys are definitely not the same
you can see that when there is more than one gobbler in a field (some of them are likely born from same clutch) seems all the hens want that ONE bird
there is something there making that gobbler more appealing than the others even though his twins may be right beside him but the hens dont have anything to do with them
pressure absolutely messes with the way a bird acts. a deer or elk can go nocturnal when pressure is high (and they do), a turkey cant
you can see that when there is more than one gobbler in a field (some of them are likely born from same clutch) seems all the hens want that ONE bird
there is something there making that gobbler more appealing than the others even though his twins may be right beside him but the hens dont have anything to do with them
pressure absolutely messes with the way a bird acts. a deer or elk can go nocturnal when pressure is high (and they do), a turkey cant
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:48 pm to Ron Cheramie
but still it is basic survival of the fittest
"fittest" in an unhunted population may mean the gobbler that gobbles the most gets the most hens and he gets to pass on his genes (that is the ultimate goal for animals to pass on their genes)
but now you have a heavily hunted population or one with lots of predators. A noisy gobbler gives up his position and gets shot or eaten and he never gets to breed and pass on his genes whereas the big quiet stud in the middle of the field is getting all the ladies and passing on his genes
I am far from a geneticist, but it does warrant a little conversation which is all it was
"fittest" in an unhunted population may mean the gobbler that gobbles the most gets the most hens and he gets to pass on his genes (that is the ultimate goal for animals to pass on their genes)
but now you have a heavily hunted population or one with lots of predators. A noisy gobbler gives up his position and gets shot or eaten and he never gets to breed and pass on his genes whereas the big quiet stud in the middle of the field is getting all the ladies and passing on his genes
I am far from a geneticist, but it does warrant a little conversation which is all it was
Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:01 pm to jchamil
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You really think pressure has no effect on turkeys and their behavior?
I said pressure doesn't trump all of the other factors. If pressure messed with turkeys severely, you'd never call up one and miss him at 10 yards with a fiery blast past his beak, only to call him up again an hour later and kill him, but this happens all the time. Hell, I've killed one hours after knocking him down. He didn't gobble as much the second go-around like the first, but he still gobbled and came in.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:03 pm to tenfoe
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I said pressure doesn't trump all of the other factors. If pressure messed with turkeys severely, you'd never call up one and miss him at 10 yards with a fiery blast past his beak, only to call him up again an hour later and kill him, but this happens all the time. Hell, I've killed one hours after knocking him down. He didn't gobble as much the second go-around like the first, but he still gobbled and came in.
you killed the dumb turkey, he wont pass on his dumb genes
Posted on 4/22/19 at 4:05 pm to Ron Cheramie
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noisy gobbler gives up his position and gets shot or eaten and he never gets to breed and pass on his genes whereas the big quiet stud in the middle of the field is getting all the ladies and passing on his genes
I am far from a geneticist, but it does warrant a little conversation which is all it was
They don't have to gobble as much in fields because hens can see them. That same turkey in an areas with less visibility will gobble more. It's not about one turkey that gobbles more than another one due to some type of genetic predisposition. It's nearly all circumstantial.
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