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Lake Mary - flood question

Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:46 pm
Probably a stupid question but do all area around lake Mary flood during high river stages?

Curious to know how high camps on the lake need to be, not to flood.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:50 pm to
yeah, its not protected, so whatever the river does, so does Mary. Got friends with a camp there. Although most of them are raised like Grand Isle, they may go 4-5 months without being able to get to it.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:58 pm to
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they may go 2-3 YEARS without being able to get to it.


Fixed it
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:55 pm to
yikes!
Posted by ctowntiger
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:07 pm to
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they may go 2-3 YEARS without being able to get to it.


Unfortunately this is not far off the truth. I grew up having a camp there. Back in the 90's and early 00's we would only get a couple very minor floods a year. In the past several years it's gotten bad, often times you couldn't get in till dam near Labor Day in the summer, with several sporadic rises during hunting season. I've had several friends of mine sell their camps because of this.
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Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:22 pm to
I know Lake Mary goes by Natchez. We go by Vicksburg. And 35 is considered a high river for us. Or used to be. That was the level where most of our river land was under water. Growing up I can remember being run out by 35 foot rivers only once in the fall. And maybe every other year in the spring.

The last three years the river has been to 35 through the end of July. And will be at 40 on Jan 15th for the third year in a row. This is definitely a man made frick up. And it's getting worse.
Posted by PawnMaster
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:44 am to
Yes.

They need to be high. You can go down there when it goes back down and look at the high water marks to get a pretty good idea of just how high you need to be. Depending on what you’re wanting to do with the camp, it’s prob better to just get a camper and haul it in and out.

Posted by 19557LSU
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:02 am to
Can you explain what man has done to cause high rivers?
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:14 am to
Levees
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I know Lake Mary goes by Natchez. We go by Vicksburg. And 35 is considered a high river for us. Or used to be. That was the level where most of our river land was under water. Growing up I can remember being run out by 35 foot rivers only once in the fall. And maybe every other year in the spring.

The last three years the river has been to 35 through the end of July. And will be at 40 on Jan 15th for the third year in a row. This is definitely a man made frick up. And it's getting worse.


It is getting worse fast.
Posted by PiyahhBaw
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:55 am to
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they may go 2-3 YEARS without being able to get to it.


A bit dramatic, but needless to say, the road can be under the water for 4 or 5 months at a time. Just don't get caught hunting on flooded lake mary planting
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:31 am to
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Can you explain what man has done to cause high rivers


ORCS

Sure. We kept the River from taking the Achafalaya route to the ocean. To do that we built the ORCS. That choked the River down. Which slowed the flow. Which dropped 450 million cubic meters of sediment in the channel between Angola and Vicksburg. Which narrowed the channel by 800 meters, and raised the bottom of the River by 7 feet. And growing.

This professor at LSU explains it perfectly. His English is not great. But his data and analysis is absolutely on point.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by DocHolliday1964
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:23 am to
Bottom of mine’s 20 ft off ground and 40’ off low water mark. High water mark (2011) was within 8 inches of bottom of my camp
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:04 pm to
New forecast just out this morning.

By Jan 25th; Vicksburg at 44 feet. Natchez at 50 feet. And it's still raining in the Midwest with more rain forecast today and tomorrow.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Sure. We kept the River from taking the Achafalaya route to the ocean. To do that we built the ORCS. That choked the River down. Which slowed the flow. Which dropped 450 million cubic meters of sediment in the channel between Angola and Vicksburg. Which narrowed the channel by 800 meters, and raised the bottom of the River by 7 feet. And growing.

This professor at LSU explains it perfectly. His English is not great. But his data and analysis is absolutely on point.


Exactly. You can't equate Miss. river level with rainfall over the course of decades.

Unless something is done the morganza spillway is going to eventually need to be opened more and more frequently. Eventually the river will change course like it or not.

I would expect some serious dredging to take place before that happens. But politics??? You never know.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:44 pm to
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By Jan 25th; Vicksburg at 44 feet. Natchez at 50 feet. And it's still raining in the Midwest with more rain forecast today and tomorrow.





I grew up on a farm on the river and can say 50ft NTZ used to be rare outside of extreme crest and never laster more than a few days in late spring or June, it seems to be the new norm during winter floods now.

As a refrence point our levee was built to hold out 48ft in the 60's and was seldomly overtopped prior to 1990ish.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:11 pm to
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grew up on a farm on the river a

Are you a Guideon?
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:19 pm to
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Are you a Guideon?





Nope they are north of me.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:58 am to
Well then if you're a Bolte then I need to borrow some money :)
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:15 pm to
Must be part of that bunch on Rodney?
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