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re: Lab obedience training

Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:53 pm to
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My best advice is spend some time w/ them every day (it doesn't have to be long


Best advice ever....consistency! Not when the kids are playing with him....that's necessary also...or when he has just eaten, been in the crate for a long period etc but when he is ready to focus on you....and end it on a positive note that makes him want to do more.
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Let me add too. This is my first lab. Ive always wanted a lab. I’m 38 now and finally got one. I want to do this right. I do duck hunt but don’t know if I’m gonna go that route with him. But I do want him obedient.


Others are going to scoff at me for this but most labs will retrieve birds with NO training.....they need obedience training no matter what their life's work is going to be...whether it is laying on the couch being a constant source of joy to you or hunting waterfowl and upland birds 180 days a year....every bit of the hunting training that a finished dog possesses is built on a SOLID foundation of obedience training....because, again, most labs will make a meat fetcher right out of the box....they may not make blinds without you tossing something in the general direction or do multiples without the same and they most definitely will not take hand signals but if they can mark a downed bird or anything else falling out of the sky in the general area they will go get it and bring it to you.....it is the obedience that makes the difference....the ability to make the dog sit, lay, place, heel, stop, come and fetch when it has no idea that there is something to fetch....these are the difference makers between a dog you would take to an exclusive club hunting and one you won't carry with your best buddies because you don't want them witnessing the shitty job you have done training your dog. A gun dogs training is an extension of the basic obedience training required for a dog to be a good member of the family and not a nuisance....

Posted by fishcityrube
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:07 pm to
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et me add too. This is my first lab. Ive always wanted a lab. I’m 38 now and finally got one. I want to do this right. I do duck hunt but don’t know if I’m gonna go that route with him. But I do want him obedient.


The only training guide that I have ever used for my labs was Waterdog. I never hunted them but wanted them to be obedient. My first one I got in college and had him doing hand and whistle commands. You can take it as far as you want but it all starts with the same basic things.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Best pic I got cause the kids won’t leave him alone. I’ve had him 2 days.


Don't even ask them to leave him alone....he will be a far better dog for it and they will be far better people for it! Socializing a dog is a HUGE part of training them and Labs, in my experience, need it more than some breeds. I will guarantee you that dog has already, in 2 days, learned that "NO" is a sound he is going to have to contend with LOL....he ain't paying it any attention yet but he has cataloged it and will revisit many times in the coming months!

That's a great picture....that dog'll hunt!
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:18 pm to
Another word of advice...don't get frustrated. A dog will turn a corner and do things exactly as expected, sometimes for weeks and even years...and then, for some reason, act as if they have been hit in the head LOL....if you are having trouble getting him to do what you expect look at what you are doing....most likely you are sending him mixed signals and confusing him which will make him into a bumbling idiot and will frustrate you. if you find yourself doing this IMMEDIATELY do something with the dog he doesn't fail to do...usually chasing a tossed bumper without being commanded to sit and sent to fetch it...just toss it and let him get it….and end the session then and there until you work out what you did wrong and are no longer frustrated because the dog will pick up on your frustration and it will add to his....the worst thing you can do in these cases, and they will happen, is punish the dog either verbally or physically....screaming and hollering at him is about as bad as smacking the crap out of him....sometimes both are necessary but it should NEVER be the preferred method because it will only confuse the dog and his confusion will lead him to make more mistakes. and by smacking I don't mean beat the crap out of him...usually one finger on the snout with a strong verbal command is more than enough....and only in the worst case then....
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1942 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:18 pm to
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great picture


Thanks we call my 3.5yo daughter “darla” from finding Nemo.
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1510 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:19 pm to
“sound beginnings“ - jackie mertens
Easy

“Training a retriever puppy” - Bill Hillmann
A little more involved

All Good stuff that all builds up to more advanced Training. You can also get some of Lardys stuff and it’s great, but more advanced.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Thanks we call my 3.5yo daughter “darla” from finding Nemo.


She's adorable....they will be inseparable most likely....I got my current lab when my son was a sophomore in high school and he is now a college junior, by the skin of his teeth the slacker LOL...and when he comes home for holidays etc my damn hard charging duck dog finds herself out of the kennel and in his bed looking at me like "What??".....he also feeds here from the table and she thinks the moon and sun rises and sets in his behind...luckily she is bright enough to know that when we are in the blind ha ain't in charge....at least she pretends to know it....
Posted by Ppro
natchez
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:39 pm to
The best dog training is achieved when you have a lot of small sessions with a lot of small successes. It is always best to end training with a success. Don’t overtrain. You may only train for 2-5 minutes but so much is achieved when you don’t take steps backwards. Don’t train when you are stressed and angry. Nothing good usually happens during this time. Dogs only need 3 commands in their lives. Sit here and go. Sit and here are obedience commands and are very easy for a dog to learn. You don’t need a book for this. Sit means sit until told to move. Here means here. You can teach down but for me that’s just a variation of sit. Don’t overthink things. Make it fun and enjoy every success. It will all add up to an obedient fun dog. Obedient dogs are those with consistent training. Don’t say the word unless you expect the dog to obey or have control enough to make them obey. If your dog likes to learn your job is will be easy. Now to train that last command well that’s where the money is made.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2698 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:54 pm to
Freddy Kong’s videos on YouTube might be of some help to you too
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17496 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:08 am to
"Hey Pup Fetch It UP" is what I used. It's a retriever training book but also a good guide what a obedient house dog should be.
Posted by Ziggy Pop
Caddo
Member since Sep 2005
55 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 9:29 am to
Second on Bill Hillmann’s Puppy Program. I used it on my pup and it was the perfect starter program for building retrieving drive.
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