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re: Is it me or my sights? (Handgun accuracy)

Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11899 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:19 pm to
The main goal of pistol shooting is for that front sight to be in the right place when the trigger breaks. If that doesn't happen, you'll get eradic results.

Keep it basic - wherever that dot is, the bullet will follow.

Isolate that front sight and isolate your trigger finger.
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
3185 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:47 pm to
Jerker's corner.

Having a buddy do Ball and Dummy drills with you with fix that in no time.

Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:13 pm to
If your grouping is 6x6 then it is you not the gun. I have a SR9c and I can tell when I jerk it or when the shot is good. I never shoot paper so have no clue what my grouping is. I just concentrate on hitting the steel plates. I can tell when it is a good shot or if I flinched. If the sights are aimed at target when trigger breaks the round will hit where I aim.

Never shot a pistol much before this one so I am a beginner.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:28 pm to
What size spread is considered good at the 6-7 yard range? I've been pretty happy with my shots so for, being that this is the first handgun I've ever shot.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11899 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:11 pm to
I'm so proud of the new SR9c owners!

Seriously though, just work on your trigger break to slowly minimize your flinch. You will never be able to get completely rid of it forever (I still flinch at times) but you can do your best to focus on the trigger and imagine just pushing it straight back without the sight moving.

I strongly suggest you do a lot of dry fire practice. If you removed the magazine disconnect safety (and I hope you have) you can dry fire the gun without a magazine in. If you haven't removed it, dry firing with the magazine out can damage the striker. If you haven't removed it and want to, watch this video. It's very easy:

Mag Disconnect Removal
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:14 pm to
If you put any pistol in a vise I think it would shoot 1/4" at 6 yards. Maybe way better. I have a 4" target that I expect to hit 100% at 10 yards. Don't always do it. But that's what I want.

I shoot at 18", 13", 8", and 4" plates. No clue what I group but at 10 yards I don't think I should miss any but the 4" occasionally. I just concentrate on holding on target when the trigger breaks.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:18 pm to
Bad thing is I only shoot once a month. Takes 50 rounds to start getti g a rhythm back. I always have a empty mag around to dry fire. Haven't tackled removing the disconnect yet.

But after today that's 1300 rounds through mine and no jams at all. Even had a guy shooting a pistol for the first time today four mags flawless.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11899 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Haven't tackled removing the disconnect yet.


It takes about 5 minutes if you follow that video I posted. I just suggest you get to it when you can.

quote:

But after today that's 1300 rounds through mine and no jams at all. Even had a guy shooting a pistol for the first time today four mags flawless.


Great to hear. It's a fantastic starter semi auto. I ordered some new Novak sights for mine and can't wait for them to come in. I'll post up when I get them in.
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
3185 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I strongly suggest you do a lot of dry fire practice.
THIS.

To maximize the benefit of dry firing, try "pencil shooting". (I know this works in 1911's).
-Insert a sharpened pencil into the barrel of the pistol (insert eraser so that lead is pointing forward).
-Hang a sheet of white paper on the wall with a dot the size of a BB drawn in it.
-Face the wall with the barrel of the pistol only an inch or two from the wall
-Aim at the dot. Fire. Cycle. Repeat.

The marks from the pencil popping out of the barrel should be in the same place.

Now all that said, google "Ball and Dummy Drill".

All the advice on this board combined will not be half as useful as ball & dummy. On the range, fire at least 2 mags and THEN do B&D. You'll totally diagnose yourself. This is a time tested and proven training tool that the military has used for a century. I've overseen small arms training for thousands of personnel and I will personally testify that It works.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61612 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 6:07 pm to
I've been an advocate of pencil shooting for a LONG time. My dad showed me that and that's how I learned trigger control and breathing techniques for accurate shooting of a hand gun.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 6:12 pm to
I'm going to try this. Never heard of it.
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