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Posted on 10/29/22 at 1:49 pm to R11
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Kill does then hoss
What difference does it make to you on my hunting lease.
You bitching about the quality of deer I choose to shoot on land you don’t have access to. Sounds like left wing logic.
Hoss
Posted on 10/29/22 at 2:01 pm to upgrade
Doesn’t.
Just making a general point.
Not bitching about anything.
Settle down kid.
Just making a general point.
Not bitching about anything.
Settle down kid.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 2:15 pm to upgrade
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You bitching about the quality of deer I choose to shoot on land you don’t have access to. Sounds like left wing logic.
I can remember my dad raising me to be ok with mediocrity and subpar standards. To each his own, honestly.
Hossy Hoss
Posted on 10/29/22 at 2:33 pm to Outdoorreb
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I can remember my dad raising me to be ok with mediocrity and subpar standards
You are an Ole Miss fan
Posted on 10/29/22 at 4:41 pm to Riolobo
We had 24 inch main beam when I left
Posted on 10/29/22 at 4:43 pm to TutHillTiger
I really think setting up such standards really doesn’t do much because you are following herd recommendations, you need to maximize the strength of the herd not trophy tree
Posted on 10/29/22 at 5:10 pm to hubreb
6 pt or better for bucks. doe must weigh 70 pounds.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 9:40 pm to The Levee
Levee, that’s a 5 yr old deer unless you are in grain fields of Midwest.
I have one of those on camera. He made it to 5 1/2 because he has been a scrub all his life and people passed on him.
In my opinion, killing that 235 buck is 10 times harder than that 130 inch 3 yr old deer.
We chased a buck at our place for 4 yrs. He was 140-150 inches at 3 yrs old. I shot at him at 3 1/2 and hit a tree limb between me and him. I missed him that day and no one laid eyes on him for 4 years except with cameras.
I killed him in almost the exact location 4 years later at 180 inches. It’s a lifetime deer and an amazing feeling to hunt a deer for 4 years and finally kill him.
We did not fire a shot on that property for four years because we let young bucks walk. We have another property that we shoot does on.
Killing a 5 yr old buck is an amazing accomplishment no matter what’s on his head. That’s a smart deer that’s well educated. He’s very very tough to kill.
I have one of those on camera. He made it to 5 1/2 because he has been a scrub all his life and people passed on him.
In my opinion, killing that 235 buck is 10 times harder than that 130 inch 3 yr old deer.
We chased a buck at our place for 4 yrs. He was 140-150 inches at 3 yrs old. I shot at him at 3 1/2 and hit a tree limb between me and him. I missed him that day and no one laid eyes on him for 4 years except with cameras.
I killed him in almost the exact location 4 years later at 180 inches. It’s a lifetime deer and an amazing feeling to hunt a deer for 4 years and finally kill him.
We did not fire a shot on that property for four years because we let young bucks walk. We have another property that we shoot does on.
Killing a 5 yr old buck is an amazing accomplishment no matter what’s on his head. That’s a smart deer that’s well educated. He’s very very tough to kill.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 9:52 pm to upgrade
Because your lease isn’t your property. Sort of like the neighbor in the subdivision who is renting a house and has crap all over the place.
Yes, he’s paying rent, but he’s affecting the value of his neighbors property who own where they live!
I bought a place this year, and when the Leasee’s came to remove stands they were griping about losing their lease. I asked them why they didn’t buy the property? There response was they didn’t want to get together and spend that much money.
Your lack of investment affects those who invest in their property! No, $1000-2000 per year in a lease is not an investment.
Yes, he’s paying rent, but he’s affecting the value of his neighbors property who own where they live!
I bought a place this year, and when the Leasee’s came to remove stands they were griping about losing their lease. I asked them why they didn’t buy the property? There response was they didn’t want to get together and spend that much money.
Your lack of investment affects those who invest in their property! No, $1000-2000 per year in a lease is not an investment.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 9:59 pm to upgrade
Upgrade, What about the neighbor next door who may have 250K-500k invested in his property?
We are outdoorsmen and we are either consumers of the land or producers. Consumers take and don’t worry about the effects. Producers work, give, and push for the growth of the habitat and the herd.
We are outdoorsmen and we are either consumers of the land or producers. Consumers take and don’t worry about the effects. Producers work, give, and push for the growth of the habitat and the herd.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:02 pm to Shabath227
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Because your lease isn’t your property. Sort of like the neighbor in the subdivision who is renting a house and has crap all over the place. Yes, he’s paying rent, but he’s affecting the value of his neighbors property who own where they live! I bought a place this year, and when the Leasee’s came to remove stands they were griping about losing their lease. I asked them why they didn’t buy the property? There response was they didn’t want to get together and spend that much money. Your lack of investment affects those who invest in their property! No, $1000-2000 per year in a lease is not an investment.
And what exactly does this have to do with me shooting legal deer?
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:08 pm to upgrade
What difference does it make to you on my hunting lease.
You bitching about the quality of deer I choose to shoot on land you don’t have access to. Sounds like left wing logic.
Above is your response. You lease property and Your actions could affect those around you who actually invest. You don’t like left wing logic, and I agree, so surely you understand that your actions could affect those who do invest.
As a land owner, guys who lease have an affect on those of us who save and invest.
You bitching about the quality of deer I choose to shoot on land you don’t have access to. Sounds like left wing logic.
Above is your response. You lease property and Your actions could affect those around you who actually invest. You don’t like left wing logic, and I agree, so surely you understand that your actions could affect those who do invest.
As a land owner, guys who lease have an affect on those of us who save and invest.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:11 pm to Shabath227
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Upgrade, What about the neighbor next door who may have 250K-500k invested in his property?
Well for one they don’t exist near me.
Number two, if they want everyone in the state, or maybe just the area they hunt to shoot the same type of deer that they target, maybe they should lobby wildlife and fisheries to change the regulations.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:14 pm to Shabath227
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As a land owner, guys who lease have an affect on those of us who save and invest.
Sorry someone on the lease next to you shot a 2 year old buck the would have grown up to be the next state record.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:17 pm to upgrade
Lobby the state to change things?
Maybe you do like left wing logic because conservative right wing men govern themselves, and do what’s right by nature. They bring change, they don’t wait for government to bring change!
Maybe you do like left wing logic because conservative right wing men govern themselves, and do what’s right by nature. They bring change, they don’t wait for government to bring change!
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:25 pm to Shabath227
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do what’s right by nature.
You know nature kills the weakest first, right?
Or should I have said harvests the weakest first?
This post was edited on 10/29/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:47 pm to Shabath227
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Levee, that’s a 5 yr old deer
I’m telling you it’s not. We have good genetics for big bodies and bad genetics for big racks. Tons of acorns on my property. Low pressure
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:54 am to The Levee
Levee,
What state are you in? Are you surrounded by grain fields?
Listen to this podcast with Dr Marcus Lashley. He used to be at Mississippi State. He is now head of the University of Florida deer lab.
LINK
Land and Legacy and Mississippi Deer Lab podcast are two of my favorites.
What state are you in? Are you surrounded by grain fields?
Listen to this podcast with Dr Marcus Lashley. He used to be at Mississippi State. He is now head of the University of Florida deer lab.
LINK
Land and Legacy and Mississippi Deer Lab podcast are two of my favorites.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:48 am to Shabath227
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As a land owner, guys who lease have an affect on those of us who save and invest.
Then buy the surrounding land. Your ideals of management are based on your goals. You are manipulating nature for your enjoyment. Your particular brand of doing so is no more right or wrong than someone who enjoys seeing their kid shoot younger bucks.
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