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re: How to get a pond to retain water.....

Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:21 am to
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29319 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:21 am to
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My father in law has about an acre pond on his property and he wants to add some fish, but every year it dries up where it only holds about 2'. It's an average of about 4-5' deep if it gets all the way full. Ground water isn't an option because the acquifier is about 100' below the surface.


1. Check to see if you have adequate drainage TO the pond. You may not be collecting enough surface water to keep the pond filled.

2. You need to have the soil tested to see if the soil composition will hold water.

3. You will need to check for a leak in the levee.

4. You will need to make the pond deeper if you want to have fish survive the summer. (maybe use this dirt to shore up the levee.

Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:25 am to
2) Liner. Look up Gundle Liners. They do liners for landfills, crawfish ponds, you name it. They cut a pond liner for me about 15 years ago. Worked like a charm. Didn't cost near as much as I thought it would.

how much is not as much?
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:10 am to
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This pond is in southern Mississippi....

likely very silty. same issue we had in the tunica hills

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How much do you need to put in/how often? Does it affect the fish in the pond?

don't add salt to the water. drain the pond and let it dry enough to work the surface. spread salt at recomended lbs/sq yd and disk it in. next compact with dozer or something else heavy enough to insure good contact.
Posted by TSam
Member since May 2010
121 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:23 pm to
Bentonite works real well. Google search will tell you what to do.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:00 pm to
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Bentonite works real well


yes it does. all those "sharkey" soils work really good for ponds. but truck loads of bentonite cost way more than salt.
i had a truck driver working for me that went to weeks island and got it for just a few $/cu yd.

Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:06 pm to
Somebody explain this salt thing to me. Salts stop clays from swelling. They will make them like concrete on the surface as you can see in oilfields where salt was just dumoed, but the water dissolves the salt out of the clays. This sounds like a bad idea to me, but I could be wrong.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:17 pm to
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Salts stop clays from swelling


nope, just the opposite. the sodium makes the clay particles repel each other, ie fattening up the clay. i "fixed" a silty pond like this once before.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 3:27 pm to
take this question to the forums at pondboss.
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

take this question to the forums at pondboss.


This is correct..

But careful, saying that the pros on tPB forum know more than the people on tOB will ruffle NF's feathers..
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 4:25 pm to
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take this question to the forums at pondboss


as a qualifier to my suggestion of using salt, i'd like to add that i did get the advice and qty amounts from one of my LSU ag professors.
of course, this opened me up to him asking why i didn't know this after taking his class since he discussed this exact soil chemistry reaction.
Posted by Howard Juneau
Cocodrie, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2218 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:02 pm to
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Add fat clay to it.


I have 10,000,000 tons of USACoE approved heavy clay that is used for building Mississippi River levies so it obviously holds in water. You can have all you want for 3 bucks per ton. Transportation is on you.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 5:34 pm
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:38 pm to
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this opened me up to him asking why i didn't know this after taking his class since he discussed this exact soil chemistry reaction.


Romaire?
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:43 pm to
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Romaire?


no Feagley for soil chem and Hudnal for soil taxonomy
wasn't Romaire in Wildlife and Fisheries?
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:39 pm to
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wasn't Romaire in Wildlife and Fisheries?


shite, you're right.. my bad
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 7:07 am to
if you had Romaire then we were both in the college of ag.
what yr did you graduate?
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 8:52 am to
bingo

2003
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 4:24 pm to
damn, your way younger than me. i graduated in '92.
Posted by GreenTrout
Toledo Bend
Member since Jul 2013
1010 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 4:25 pm to
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i graduated in '92


You old. How's it feel to be nearly 40?

ETA: I joke of course
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4186 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 4:36 pm to
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nearly 40


try 44!
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