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re: How many of you use the slide release on your auto pistol?

Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:02 am to
The slide release on my gun is huge, and on both sides. I use it. People who say racking a pump shotgun scares intruders must not have ever heard the slide being released on one of these.


Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:08 am to
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People who say racking a pump shotgun scares intruders must not have ever heard the slide being released on one of these


Neither of them is going to send an intruder running. You still better be ready to pull the trigger.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:17 am to
I don't really believe that people kick doors in to steal TVs or computers or jewelry anymore. If they're coming in they want to rape or murder. That's my assumption. If it comes to that I don't expect them to be alone or unarmed.
Posted by drhuggybear
Member since Mar 2009
339 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:19 am to
First I would clarify your comment ... pistols are SEMI-auto. Automatic pistols and rifles are illegal to own unless your have your FFL.

It sounds like semantics but this is where ALOT of the confusion of the general public comes from ... people using incorrect terminology. The P2000 pictured is not automatic it is semiautomatic.

The more we (gun owners) propagate the incorrect information the more it becomes harder to correct the mindset of the general public.

My dad has not owned a gun since he was in his 20s. He had a situation that scared him with a gun he owned at the time. My sister, who at the time was 4, found it in his glove box and picked it up. Thankfully he saw her before anything happened but since then he hasn't touched a gun. He was all for the assault weapons ban until I educated him on the fact that the crap the gun grabbers are complaining about is cosmetic or they just aren't using common sense. Like the senator who thought magazines couldn't be reloaded so she thought that by banning high capacity magazines would eventually eliminate them altogether. Now my dad understands and is actually calling his senator to say that the gun control efforts are useless.

A little education changed the mind of a non gun owner. To bring this back to the original point, he also thought pistols were automatic. Again, education. I don't ever see him shooting or owning one but he certainly is now understanding things more and is actually asking a lot of questions. Which is good. Have an open discussion instead of keeping it hidden.

As to my answer for the original question -- my primary is the slide release. It is more natural for me. It is what I practice with 70% of the time but I do practice quick reloads with racking the slide. You never know when you have to clear a jam etc quickly and if all I prepare myself for is the slide release ... well ...
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:20 am to
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The slide release on my gun is huge, and on both sides. I use it. People who say racking a pump shotgun scares intruders must not have ever heard the slide being released on one of these.


That is what my wife carries for work. I hate that pistol as her's is perpetual double action.
Posted by drhuggybear
Member since Mar 2009
339 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:22 am to
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People who say racking a pump shotgun scares intruders must not have ever heard the slide being released on one of these.


I am sure this might work in some small cases but if that is what you are basing your home defense on ... I would be worried.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:27 am to
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First I would clarify your comment ... pistols are SEMI-auto. Automatic pistols and rifles are illegal to own unless your have your FFL.


. I didn't say fully automatic pistol my friend I said auto pistol and what I am referring to is, in fact, auto loading pistols.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:39 am to
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I hate that pistol as her's is perpetual double action.


Why? Seems bomb proof. The LEM action with second strike capability seemed, after all of my research, like the most fail proof design.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:41 am to
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if that is what you are basing your home defense on ... I would be worried


I was just saying that it's violent and an unmistakable sound.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 10:43 am
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:49 am to
So, I found this bit of information.
It's not a slide release, it's a slide stop.

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The little button on the side of the gun that locks the slide in the open position is called a Slide Lock or a Slide Stop. So, why do some people call it a Slide Release? Because that is how they use it!






Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:52 am to
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If its empty I relieve the tension by pulling back on slide then hit the release and lower it slowly

This will sometimes cause the slide to not close all the way. The gun is designed to slam forward. Its rare but it does happen. Always let the slide slam forward.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:58 am to
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The gun is designed to slam forward.


My manual says:

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Chamber a cartridge by depressing the slide release or by pulling the slide fully to the rear and releasing it. Do not ride the slide forward!


Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:02 am to
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Why? Seems bomb proof. The LEM action with second strike capability seemed, after all of my research, like the most fail proof design.


There is nothing wqrong with the pistol I just can't stand shooting a double action pistol with an exposed hammer. I believe you can buy it in double/single action but my wife works for the feds and they issue double action only pistols. She can shoot the hell out of it but I cannot.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:06 am to
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It's not a slide release, it's a slide stop.


The proper name is actually slide stop/release but calling it either the slide stop or slide release is acceptable. I like the idea of referring to it only as the slide stop as it might encourage people not to use it for a release.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:07 am to
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But I dont have any automatics, only semi-autos, but I'm sure they function the same.


Why do so many people say automatics? I know what you mean, well actually no. I just bought a Kimber ,Ill never get used to seeing the hammer cocked back, even though I know you still have 2 safeties. Wouldnd trade my 1911 for anything although some designs are easier to break down for cleaning ,oh well I purchased a UC II with crimson trace grips,and plan on keeping it forever. Just got through polishing the feed ramp,and converted over to Wilson combat mags. As for the slamming the slide with a release it does this everytime it feeds a new round, it wont hurt a thing.
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:19 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:12 am to
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I just can't stand shooting a double action pistol with an exposed hammer


Really? I'd hate one without it. My thumb automatically rides that hammer to make sure I don't "Oh shite, I shot myself".

It's not really a hammer-hammer like the DA/SA version, I think it makes the pistol.

Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:12 am to
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Why do so many people say automatics?


As I stated above I did not say automatic I said auto pistol and I am, in fact, referring to auto loading pistols. I understand that many of you are new to shooting and want to show off your understanding of terminology but I assure you I cannot remember the last time I made a mistake with firearm terminology.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:16 am to
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Really? I'd hate one without it. My thumb automatically rides that hammer to make sure I don't "Oh shite, I shot myself".

It's not really a hammer-hammer like the DA/SA version, I think it makes the pistol


I have shot one, although not more than 100 or so rounds, but not nearly enough to become proficient with it. I am sure I could overcome the distraction of the hammer coming back but because I am not used to it it drives me crazy. I shoot 120s(perfect score) all day on our course with glocks and single action pistols but I am a 115 shooter at best with a double action exposed hammer. If I can't see the hammer it doesn't bother me.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:22 am to
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As I stated above I did not say automatic I said auto pistol and I am, in fact, referring to auto loading pistols. I understand that many of you are new to shooting and want to show off your understanding of terminology but I assure you I cannot remember the last time I made a mistake with firearm terminology.


Im 56 years old and have been shooting pistols since I was ten, so I wouldn't say I was new to shooting You made a mistake this time bud. Semi-Auto loading, that would leave you in a hell of a bind.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 2:21 am
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:27 am to
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proper name is actually slide stop/release


I searched, but couldn't find an owner's manual or parts diagram that called it a slide release or stop/release. All I saw was slide stop.
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