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re: Help ar15 builders

Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Which is the essential 1st part to buy? Is it the lower assembly?


Doesn't really matter. Upper is the most important part. I just buy whatever I find a great deal on first. Get a lower receiver
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:07 pm to
Like Carson said, upper is most important piece. Check slickguns.com for deals on uppers and lowers. Lots of places are out of stock of uppers right now, especially lower priced ones. I picked up a DPMS/Panther Arms Oracle for $403 shipped a couple weeks ago on Midway USA. Price went up a few dollars since.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

I picked up a DPMS/Panther Arms Oracle for $403 shipped a couple weeks ago on Midway USA. Price went up a few dollars since.



Midway is a great place to buy uppers. I bought my 20" Hbar DPMS upper from Midway for a little under 5 hundy. It shoots half inch groups all day.

And I agree with Carson. The most important component for shootability is the upper. The most important component in a lower is the trigger. If you build your own lower, I strongly suggest you get a trigger from...

Rock River Arms (I have the national match 2-stage and it's like cheating)
Geissele (GREAT 2-stage triggers!)
Jewel
Timney (the best single stage triggers, IMO)

If you want to stick with a milspec 8 lb trigger, that's fine, but the second you shoot a good aftermarket trigger, you will regret it.

I'll also remark that if you want a good long range setup, a 20" is great. It's heavy though, so trudging through the woods with it isn't ideal. It shoots like hell though...





(the two fliers you see here were from a standing position; the 1/2" group you see is 5 shots; this is also my own reloaded ammo, so your mileage may vary)

If you want a more mobile setup, I strongly advise you stick with a 16". It may not shoot this well, but for practical purposes (within 200-300 yards and/or hog hunting) it's all you will need. You will also save a ton on weight. My 20" may shoot well but it's heavy as frick.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15254 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:53 pm to
Awesome. Thanks
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Aside for a scope, am I pretty well done with that? Just assemble the lower, connect with the upper, put the stock on, and I am good to go, is that correct?


I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything about buffer tube, buffer, and spring:

https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Buffers_Tubes_Endplates_s/252.htm
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15254 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

I just buy whatever I find a great deal on first.


Are there any "deal-a-day" sites or any parts house websites that has daily/weekly deals? I want to say I saw on while surfing around yesterday but can't remember it.

Thanks
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:49 pm to
Slickguns.com
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15254 posts
Posted on 9/22/12 at 12:07 pm to
Complete
Polymer Lower $109


Seems to good to be true. Anyone tried out one of these?
This post was edited on 9/22/12 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 9/22/12 at 12:28 pm to
Do not buy. Polymer lowers are frickin garbage. You don't want to touch those.

The only way I'd ever buy one is to use for a beater gun with a Slidefire stock that I could just abuse.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15254 posts
Posted on 9/22/12 at 12:46 pm to
Figured that $109 was too good to be true
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 9/22/12 at 2:19 pm to
I bought that exact lower for $99 shipped. I went with it because I wanted to spend as little as possible for my first AR. The lower body is very sturdy and durable, but all internal parts are polymer also, including the takedow and pivot pins. I'll probably buy a lower parts kit and replace the internals for metal ones, but I'm not concerned about the durability of the lower body itself for what I need.

Have you decided on an upper yet?
This post was edited on 9/22/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted by CCTiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Jan 2005
99 posts
Posted on 9/22/12 at 2:30 pm to
Sign up for Palmetto Arms newsletter, and check DSA arms, if you want to find stripped lowers/uppers, lots of places, ar15 DOT Com is a great site to get information and find suppliers for certain items.
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