re: glock vs s&w mp

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What accidental discharge hazards will a thumb safety protect against that one without does not?


The same ones that all other safeties prevent. Real safeties. Not those pretend ones Glock has

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So, what makes it less likely that a thumb safety can be accidentally clicked off than a trigger be properly pulled? And is that margin of safety significant enough given the risks?

Let me illustrate with my own example. Having small children and living in a very safe area, I usually carry (meaning in briefcase at home, or in car) my pistol without a round chambered, whether in my Glock or my HK. That's because, given the risks (child shooting self) and limited likelihood of danger, I don't trust the safety of either one. The difference in the safeties is insignificant compared to the risk.

Now, if I lived in a dangerous area, I would carry with a round chambered, but I would still not consider the risk between the two pistols, (HK: kid clicking off safety and pulling trigger vs. Glock: kid fully compressing trigger enough to disarm trigger safety), THAT different. It's mostly insignificant.

I freely admit that this is a hard concept to accept. I still have trouble myself. We've gotten used to our thumb safeties.

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You can put a hundred safeties on a gun and still accidentally fire it. It's all psychological. They don't fire unless you pull the trigger. If you are treating the gun as if it's loaded and ready to fire at all times, you don't need a safety at all. That's how you should be looking at it.

You can say yeah, but... but in every case, every exception, that rule still is correct. If you treated the gun like it was loaded and ready to fire you wouldn't have left it where a kid could get to it. You wouldn't have accidentally discharged. Etc.

Gun safety is all in the head. "Safeties" are a crutch that will ultimately fail you if you haven't got it right in your head and practice safe handling.

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VERY VERY well said


I still won't own a gun without a manual safety unless it's a revolver though. It's something that is habitual and I am used to. I never rely on it, but I do like it there. I personally like having to operate something before I can just pull the trigger and make it go bang.

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I personally like having to operate something before I can just pull the trigger and make it go bang.

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You can do this with a glock, just don't chamber it.

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The only safety that works is to not be touching the gun

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Total crap

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You can put a hundred safeties on a gun and still accidentally fire it. It's all psychological. They don't fire unless you pull the trigger.

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Wow what a rationalized excuse. If the safety is on, it won't fire, period.

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"Safeties" are a crutch that will ultimately fail you if you haven't got it right in your head and practice safe handling.

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Another excuse. Should all long gun manufacturers eliminate their safeties?