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Fence Help - DIY

Posted on 11/21/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42300 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 11:05 am
Reaching out to get ideas/opinions/knowledge.

Pre Ida we had a wooden fence that was messed up, but the panels we had were still in tact. We had kept it up to continue to give us privacy while the house was being worked on. Now that we are back in the house we took down the fence, but I saved the panels incase I would choose to reuse. They were the 6 or 8 foot long panels from Lowe's and they are about 2 years old.

The posts were damaged during the storm and bent so I removed those from the ground.

My question is, should I just go with Wooden posts then add the panels back? Buy new panels for the areas that we would neeed? Would this be the easier route to go? Or should I just slowly re-do the fence and complete it when I fully get the opportunity to tackle this?

I never built a fence from start to finish so just trying to get some knowledge.

the Panels are 6 ft high, so would also like to possibly have them sit higher? And run some chicken wire or something at the bottom?

Again, appreciate any help. I am very inexperienced for sure, but want to be able to tackle this on a budget if possible.

Thx
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 11:12 am to
Being only 2 yrs old you can certainly reuse them as long as they're in good shape. If they're in suspect or so-so shape, go all new. I'd go with 4" X 4" wood posts.
Posted by saray
Member since May 2014
458 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 12:12 pm to
to make it right use galvanized pipe for posts- at least every so often (not those metal fence posts) more expensive but they will not rot or blow down or bend unless a direct hit from a hurricane
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5319 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 1:02 pm to
Panels from box stores are assembled with nails and not screws. The nails just don't hold up as well as screws especially after they've been put up, brought down then put back up. It loosens up and pickets come off easier. You could use the old fence panels and go screw all the pickets after it's reassembled. They also use 2X3 (instead of 2X4) rails more frequently which will sag and break over time.

You have a effort vs. cost scenario here.

If you reuse the existing panels, I'd get everything put up, pressure wash and bleach the panels, then stain them to make them last longer. You can use wood posts or metal posts. Wood posts will deteriorate over time, metal shouldn't. About a $15 per post difference between wood and metal (and metal brackets). If you use metal posts, on the next fence, you shouldn't need to re-set posts unless another hurricane hits.

The longest lasting solution, is also the priciest. Metal posts, 2X4 rails, and new pickets. Doing it yourself will be about $115 per panel post, concrete, and screws.

For fencing, I like to put the corner posts in, stretch a straight line, measure your 8' mark using the straight line and put posts every 8'. The 8' mark is super critical. Your rails will be 8' and if you have 8'2", you'll end up short on your rails and you'll have to fine a fence stretcher. Set the posts and let them dry at least over night. I will then stretch a tight line from end to end, to hang the rails. Get all of your rails set, then get to hanging pickets. Hang 5 pickets at a time. Check level on every 5th picket.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42300 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 1:29 pm to
Thanks for the insight.


Just noticed I posted this on the Outdoor board not the home and garden, lol...

still thx fellas
Posted by CouldaShot79
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2021
516 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:20 pm to
Metal posts will hold up better, but it’s going to create more work. You can’t butt the panels up next to each other on a metal post, so you’ll have to leave some overhang and use 2x4 brackets to connect the panels together, which creates a weak point in itself. I’d recommend using treated pine 4x4’s. You’ll be able to fasten both ends of each panel to a post with ring shank nails or screws and eliminate having bracket joints on your 2x4 runners. Just make sure you dig a 24” deep hole and concrete up to the top of the hole to avoid the posts coming in direct contact with the soil. This way the posts will last just as long as the rest of the fence does anyway. The only real advantage to using metal is that you could leave them there and reuse them in 20 years the next time the fence has to be replaced.

Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:15 pm to
Galvanized heavy wall metal posts pounded 3 ft. deep (forget the cement). Attach 2x4 runners to hangers at each metal post, install pickets with screws
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

They also use 2X3 (instead of 2X4) rails more frequently which will sag


I have experience with these panels. My neighbor purchased these panels with 2x3 stringers and I helped install. Every one of the panels sagged after 4-5 years due to the 2x3 stringers spanning 8ft.

We havent had any of the pickets come off or anything structural. But the sagging is an issue.

If you already have panels, I would recommend adding 2x4 stringers for reinforcement. In the spring, Im going to take a jack and jack the sag out then add 2x4 stringers below the 2x3s.
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 8:36 pm
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16465 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

If you already have panels, I would recommend adding 2x4 stringers for reinforcement. In the spring, Im going to take a jack and jack the sag out then add 2x4 stringers below the 2x3s.


If I were you I’d stagger them so they don’t all terminate at the post. Having all the stringers terminate at the same point (at the same post) is what causes sagging.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42300 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:09 am to
Appreciate that insight.

Yes, I understand the "sagging" you were speaking of as I believe ours was beginning to trend that way pre storm.



Is it even worth the battle to try to take apart the panels?

I think we will end up painting the fence to "refurbish" it.
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