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re: Does anyone think Louisiana will ever be a constitutional carry state?

Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:44 am to
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:44 am to
There are plenty of people that have went through those classes that still don't handle safely.

And aren't those classes more about concealed carry laws...not teaching how to use a firearm.
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:48 am to
Also, I don't see the reason to force someone to sit through a course on deadly force....taught by someone with zero background in use of deadly force.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:52 am to
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jdavid1


Sorry, but no. Our inalienable rights are not contingent upon your peace of mind.

I agree in principle with the point you're making, but that doesn't mean we should have government mandates.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:54 am to
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There are plenty of people that have went through those classes that still don't handle safely.


You are right, and back to my example about driving a car. There are a lot of people who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car and have a drivers license. I'm not saying it's going to help everyone, but the classes would help a lot of people.

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And aren't those classes more about concealed carry laws...not teaching how to use a firearm.


In my class we went over parts of firearms and how to work the mechanics. Then we spent a good bit of time at the range because there were some people who needed a little help.

Another example from my class. A woman had a semi auto pistol that she couldn't even rack the slide. So after working with her a little my instructor gave her a revolver to shoot. She was able to do well with it when she left, and because of that she now knows that she can't carry a semi auto. If not for that she could be walking around with a gun she can't even load in her purse which would be useless.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 9:56 am to
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Also, I don't see the reason to force someone to sit through a course on deadly force....taught by someone with zero background in use of deadly force.


I think you guys need to find better instructors.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:29 am to
Where in the Constitution are you given the right to drive a car? Apples to oranges


Your class....but not every class is necessarily your class.

And why didn't this great instructor teach the female the proper way to rack the slide instead of giving her false info that she can't use a semi-auto.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:32 am to
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Your class....but not every class is necessarily your class.


Fair enough.

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And why didn't this great instructor teach the female the proper way to rack the slide


She physically could not do it. She didn't have the hand strength to hold a grip on the slide.

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giving her false info that she can't use a semi-auto


He didn't tell her she couldn't use a semi. He recommended she use a revolver which was easier for her.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:39 am to
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jdavid1

Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:52 am to
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She physically could not do it. She didn't have the hand strength to hold a grip on the slide.



He didn't teach her correctly then. There is a different technique used for people with a weak grip.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:55 am to
My point is there are plenty of instructors that pass everyone that pays.

So making it a requirement doesn't necessarily make it safer for people.

And again you shouldn't be required to take a class to utilize your constitutional right.
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 11:55 am to
But he didn't make it a constitutional carry state. That was my point.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:02 pm to
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And again you shouldn't be required to take a class to utilize your constitutional right.



I hope you're trolling
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