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Curado 100B repair

Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:00 am
Got an old 100B that's been whining at me lately when I throw it. Feels like it has unwanted resistance when I throw and every once in a while it will free up and feel quiet and smooth. I've put some Quantum Hot Sauce in places I can reach without breaking it down and it didn't seem to help much.

Called Superior, they wouldn't give me any help other than bring it to us and let us tear it down for $25 and determine the problem. Anyone else in the OB have a good reel service place?

Or, anyone else had similar problems with old reels or Curados? I can take it apart and replace parts, any idea what to replace? All the bearings maybe?

Thanks for the input.
Posted by Head1
Member since Dec 2009
396 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:23 am to
I brought some old rod and reels to Favaro brothers and he was able to fix everything. The location is a little sketchy but they are legit. (225) 355-4368

LINK

Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8040 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:43 am to
Since it's old it could probably use a good service/going through. If you can do it yourself look up schematics and videos on Youtube, they're relatively simple to tear down and service yourself. Order replacement bearings and new carbon fiber drag washers(should be able to find that for ~$30, better bearing = more $$ though) and get after it. You'll need a 10mm wrench to get the handle nut off(Note if it's a lefty reel it'll be a lefty handed thread), a couple smallish screw drivers, and a set of tweezers or small pliers is nice to have. There's a ton of small parts but if you keep everything organized it's not tough at all. If you want to get carried away look up instructions on super tuning but just a general cleaning and servicing and replacing worn parts will get it back in service for many years.
Posted by cbr900racer22
City of Central, LA.
Member since Sep 2009
1314 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:09 pm to
I second Favros. I bring 12 once a year to them.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7373 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:12 pm to
Just left Superior. They told me my reel would be done in 10 days...20 days ago. Still not done.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

If you can do it yourself look up schematics and videos on Youtube, they're relatively simple to tear down and service yourself.


This. Shimano has tons of schematics floating around the web, and breaking these reels down isn't as tough as you might think. Usually all they need is a good cleaning and bearings replaced/flushed to work like new. Pretty rewarding learning what makes them tick and servicing them yourself.
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:44 pm to
Thanks for the input. Yes, I've taken apart my other old greenies before and it's not bad as long as you have the schematic in front of you.

I've only torn down others for cleaning, never replaced parts other than a cracked frame on one. Maybe I'll just tear it down to the frame, wipe/clean everything, soak the bearings in some reel oil and put it back together and see what happens.

You tube vids, good idea... always forget about that.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Maybe I'll just tear it down to the frame, wipe/clean everything, soak the bearings in some reel oil and put it back together and see what happens.



Soak the bearings in acetone and replace it every once in awhile until it stays clear, then let them dry completely. Then add a small amount of bearing oil, less is more. This will get all the old gunk out, which is probably what's causing the noise.

That goes for the rest of the reel too. Most of the time everything in the frame is over lubed and gunked up. All you need is a thin layer of grease on the drag washers and gears, and a drop of oil on each bearing. Anything else and you're just adding resistance.
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:56 pm to
Is that Quantum Hot Sauce reel oil good for the bearings or do I need something else?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:06 pm to
I've never used it personally but from what I've heard it will work fine. Any of the thinner oils out there should all work about the same for someone who isn't trying to win a casting competition.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8040 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:20 pm to
If it's the original bearings in the reel then there's a strong chance they're sealed bearings, so soaking them in anything really won't do much good. I'd just replace them completely since you'll already be tearing it down. That reel is probably nearing 25 years old, if it's the original bearings there' likely worn.

ETA: I use the Reel Butter products. You want a thin oil on the bearings but not very much. Practically any thin bearing oil will do.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

If it's the original bearings in the reel then there's a strong chance they're sealed bearings, so soaking them in anything really won't do much good. I'd just replace them completely since you'll already be tearing it down. That reel is probably nearing 25 years old, if it's the original bearings there' likely worn.



While I agree replacing the bearings is probably a good idea here, acetone will still get into a sealed bearing. The seals mostly just keep dirt out, if they were water tight they'd be impossible to lube. It may take some extra soaking but they'll come clean.
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:57 pm to
Know guy in Hammond area that has week or two turnaround if you're interested
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:06 pm to
100B schematic

I count (5) bearings, am I missing any?

(2) 194
(1) 2143
(1) 2170
(1) 2396
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:14 pm to
That's it, but I would just do the spool bearings first and see if you like where it's at. That 2143 up by the worm gear can be a bitch to get out and it only spins when reeling, it should be fine.
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 4:27 pm to
Ok, thanks, would you say the same about the 2396 since thats the roller bearing for the crank handle? The (2) 194's and the 2170 look like they'll run me about $30 online.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 5:15 pm to
Yeah the roller bearing shouldn't be worn out but it's one of the first things you get to so no harm in cleaning it. Go easy on the oil when reinstalling as it's the anti reverse clutch for the handle, too much oil and it can slip.

The main three bearings that will be worn or dirty are the ones you mentioned, the two spools and the pinion. The pinion doesn't rotate during casting but still seems to attract gunk.
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:54 pm to
DrunkenTigah, update on this... took the ole girl completely apart, every stinkin part of it, thoroughly cleaned everything. Soaked all (5) bearings in acetone as you suggested and shot them with my air compressor. Reel looks great and it does throw a little better, but is still whining. I may just need to order new spool bearings and replace them; I can't imagine what else would be making it whine when I cast it.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 5:14 pm to
Yeah if flushing the spool bearings didn't help then you likely have one or both that are shot. The only moving parts (but don't quote me) on that reel when it's in free spool should be the spool, spool shaft, and spool bearings, that means one of those should be producing the noise.

Spool bearings a pretty cheap. If you look on amazon you can find the size you need. I'd recommend going with stainless over ceramic just because ceramics tend to be loud as hell, and they tend to be overkill for most people. Usually just leads to a bigger backlash.
Posted by purplengold98
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2004
247 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:31 am to
Funny you mention the spool and spool shaft itself, b/c I thought about that too. Sometimes when I unscrew the side panel, remove the spool, reinstall, and put the side panel back, it will throw quietly for a couple casts. I wonder if it's just not the actual spool assembly itself? Not sure why this would ever need replacing though.

I've looked at some bearings, I think I can get one grade better than what comes standard in those reels for about $10 each.
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