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Coyote/Pig Trapping in North Arkansas with My Pops - Pics

Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:57 pm
Posted by crankbait
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:57 pm
I'm hanging with dad for a week or so, so him, my cousin (his best friend), and I went out and set some footholds for coyotes, a hog trap (box), and a live trap for coons/possums.

I will post some details on what we are doing, any tips would be appreciated as I'm a rookie at this (my cousin used to trap in his younger days in Texas

Here are the set up pics and I will update with progress. Not expecting much, but we will see.













This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 7:07 am
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:03 pm to
looks like your cousin is pretty knowledgeable...I can't wait to hear how you do.

fwiw, don't go posting pics of a bunch of animals while they are caught in the trap, as it will get used by the anti-trapping folks....
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:12 pm to
That's a fair point I suppose. But I really enjoyed the pics in previous trapping threads. Some of the best pics on the board,imo.
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:25 pm to
i used to trap a good bit. Loved it, just got to be alot of work because i always wanted more and more traps out. lol
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:33 pm to
Yea, I wasn't, just thought the OB could use a change of pace instead of AR threads and Billy Joe talkin bout blastin people while carrying in public
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:05 pm to
Looks like it may be a bit heavy on the backing for yote but you may pull extra cats that way. Where in North arkansas are you located?
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:18 pm to
Searcy county

Any thoughts on doing things differently?
Posted by shawnlsu
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:20 pm to
Am I going to be the first to say "shame on you for wasting backstrap"?
Shame shame
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7717 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:31 pm to
Dang...some of those pics look VERY similar to my ground blinds up here in Virginia. I think I better poke around with a stick afore I set my butt down on the ground next time...
Posted by bossflossjr
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:34 pm to
Trapping threads were some of my favorite on this entire site. Loved seeing critters being exposed of
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:31 pm to
Yada yada. Can't be perfect. I'll blame dad
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

Any thoughts on doing things differently?



A couple but understand I'm not the all knowing when it comes to trapping. Most of these suggestions are targeted at coyotes, if after gray fox, coons or cats a lot can be ignored. Couple quick questions though, what size trap is that and how far back is it set? What kind of pan tension are you running and do you have any modifications on those traps. Are you on established trails? And are you using any lure, if so what type and placement?


I normally prefer some sort of dirthole for yotes, it just seems to give them a visual point to focus on. A distracted yote is easier to catch. Actually I love blind sets but without seeing your location it is hard to help there. Plus any external bait is going to have a field day with non targets getting into the bait/trap. Mice, possums, skunks and coons will end up in that set. I normally set my trap back about 8 inches to the center of the pan and offset a couple inches to the right.

You have way to may sticks crowding into the trap for most coyotes. With guiding on coyotes less is more, they feel crowded very easily. Cats love a flashy set and you can't over guide them. Normally I won't use any guiding thicker than my thumb on yotes and often use nothing more than a couple of small rocks. They are just like me and don't want to step on anything unlevel if they don't have to. Just a little manipulation on where not to step and still be able to access the bait. If your pan is the lowest point and in the right location you will catch them if they check out the set. This is a perfect example of the size guiding I like, notice however that some debris blew into the depression the trap was setting in, coyote avoided stepping there. After sweeping it out I had a yote 2 days later. Doesn't take much to reroute their steps.

I personally don't like to use backing more than about 6 inches high, more log and less tree. In this pic there is a third trap in the picture. A dirthole punched into that little 3 inch ledge of sand. The little low spot is where the trap is. There was coyote in it the next morning. Nothing there screams anything out of the ordinary to a wary creature.


The blending looks good just be careful not to have any sticks that could get caught in the jaws, lost a lot of critters due to this early on. Also if you have too many big leaves they can act as a sock on the foot of the animal making escape easier.

As a rookie you probably didn't bed the trap solid enough, if you can push down on any part of the trap and get wobble then bed it more solidly. And I mean putting all you weight on it, its one of the hardest things to figure out at first. Everyone has this problem, or at least that's what I tell myself to make me feel better about my first couple of seasons.

IF a location is good enough for one set its good enough for multiple. Last year I had one spot where I put 5 traps in a 50 yard stretch. Best day I had coyotes in 3 of the 5. In the above pic I was actually in the process of pulling the first one out when I saw a good photo op but I forgot to get that one in frame.

I'm sure I'll think of more later but I'm tired and a bit brain dead.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:12 am to
quote:

Any thoughts on doing things differently?


New traps? I always burn them first before putting them out to remove any oils off them.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:21 am to
quote:

A couple but understand I'm not the all knowing when it comes to trapping. Most of these suggestions are targeted at coyotes, if after gray fox, coons or cats a lot can be ignored


yea, i'm only targeting coyote

quote:

what size trap is that and how far back is it set? What kind of pan tension are you running and do you have any modifications on those traps. Are you on established trails? And are you using any lure, if so what type and placement?


Duke #2

pan tension? um? no clue. no modifications. The traps are in areas that I've patterned the coyotes to travel from bowhunting/cameras, not necessarily on a trails but close.

no lure used at this point. I plan on getting some this afternoon but really don't have a clue on what to use/get

quote:

The blending looks good just be careful not to have any sticks that could get caught in the jaws, lost a lot of critters due to this early on. Also if you have too many big leaves they can act as a sock on the foot of the animal making escape easier.



yea, we were careful with this

quote:

As a rookie you probably didn't bed the trap solid enough, if you can push down on any part of the trap and get wobble then bed it more solidly. And I mean putting all you weight on it, its one of the hardest things to figure out at first. Everyone has this problem, or at least that's what I tell myself to make me feel better about my first couple of seasons.



i feel that it was bedded well, but I definitely could have done more on this. I'll for sure take care of this now

thanks for all of the tips. definitely helpful
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:22 am to
quote:

New traps? I always burn them first before putting them out to remove any oils off them.



yea, brand new. I boiled them in water yesterday morning. I was actually shocked at how black the water turned from all of the oil
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:59 am to
First run complete

Only a possum in the live trap

The bait was gone on the third coyote set up, I had it nailed to the tree and a piece jammed under a log. Could have been coons, don't know. I'm going to go back and trip the foothold and adjust the position
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1819 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

pan tension?


I normally like a little heavier pan tension, something like 4 pounds on coyotes. I did this last year and didn't get a single coon or possum in a coyote set for once.

quote:

not necessarily on a trails but close.

If possible keep it on the trail or as close as possible, I want it right where they are going to be. You're looking to make them curious. I'm much more likely to check something out if it is in my way, so are they.

quote:

no lure used at this point. I plan on getting some this afternoon but really don't have a clue on what to use/get

My favorite is GHII by fox hollow followed by violator 7 by cavens. Biggest hint with lure is use much less than you think you need. Like dip a twig the size of broom straw and and only have 1/4 inch length of it barely coating it. Put it 9 inches or so in front of trap low to the ground. If you use to much they don't have to get close and will often delay a trap producing by up to a week.

If you have questions please feel free to ask. Several good trappers on this site.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:07 am to
quote:

My favorite is GHII by fox hollow followed by violator 7 by cavens. Biggest hint with lure is use much less than you think you need. Like dip a twig the size of broom straw and and only have 1/4 inch length of it barely coating it. Put it 9 inches or so in front of trap low to the ground. If you use to much they don't have to get close and will often delay a trap producing by up to a week


thanks for the info. I wont have a chance to use lure this time around but will get one of those two for the next run up here. i'm glad you commented on the amount, I would have definitely over done it



Day 2 complete, another possum in the coon foothold...honeybun got him

Regarding the stolen bait on set up #3, I found the burglar, he got me again last night. I'm going to move the coon foothold to this area and take care of that





Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:11 am to
smoked hog,

I have two more available #2 yote foot holds that I'm going to set out today. The land is pretty heavy wooded, I've got some old logging trails that the coyotes have traveled from what I've seen bowhunting. any suggestions on a set up using bait? I can't pinpoint an exact route for them but should get close. Tie the meat to a sapling and set both footholds at the location on either side?

Also, I found a couple of hollowed out trees. would that be a decent location or just varmints would hit it? The coyotes out here are ruthless, they will hit a gut pile within hours so I grabbed some scrap meat from the grocery when I was in town yesterday for free so I have that on hand as well.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:25 am to
and another question SH, when do deer up here typically start dropping antlers? I figured it would be a little earlier than southwest MS that I'm used to, I'm still bowhunting trying for this guy and wondering if he has already dropped them

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