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re: Corn Price $3.89 Today

Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Now I have I buy "Mexican coke" to taste the actual authentic Coca-Cola recipe.


You adding your own cocaine?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:26 pm to
Is 50lb sacks of corn really $3.89?
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
618 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:03 pm to
No. That price is the out the field price for a bushel (56lbs). From the farmers I follow, it seems $4 a bushel is where break even sits.
Posted by White Bear
OPINIONS & A-HOLES
Member since Jul 2014
17271 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Wanna know how to get a million dollars farming? Start with 2.

Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:11 am to
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I know next to nothing about this iindustry. However I have had conversations with farmers in TX and in LA about the insurance game they play. That has been absent from this thread. Hedging a big crop vs a bad one with insurance. And if done correctly;y, can win both sides on occasion. Any validity to this?


Crop insurance is a “decent” safety net, like regular insurance the farmer can pick their coverage level and most end up around 75-90% of expected production. So in a disastrous year the farmer doesn’t go bankrupt, but it still likely hurts. They’re certainly better off making a crop and selling it vs collecting from insurance.

I’m not saying there’s never been a farmer that gamed insurance, but for the most part that’s nonexistent today. Farmers that only farmed for insurance aren’t in business any more. Would take too long to fully explain but farmer’s insurance agents track their production each year called Actual Production History (APH form) and if they constantly are failing crops their APH level will drop so low they won’t have much of a coverage level. There’s just too much data/tracking out there now that they can easily see if someone is not producing crops in good faith to the best of their ability.

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Corn hasn’t been above $6 since 2013.


Incorrect, December corn futures were over $6 in 2021, 2022, and 2023 at various points. However, you are correct that most of the inputs farmers use also rose during that period and have not come back down like the commodity prices have.

Producers are definitely feeling the squeeze right now. Unless you are a cattle guy, those are at all time highs right now.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12258 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:38 am to
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I know next to nothing about this iindustry. However I have had conversations with farmers in TX and in LA about the insurance game they play. That has been absent from this thread. Hedging a big crop vs a bad one with insurance. And if done correctly;y, can win both sides on occasion.

Any validity to this?



It can happen, but it's not some bulletproof strategy.

In cotton, it's called the STAX program. There used to be another name for it. It's been a "good bet" twice in the last 30 years, I believe.

There's a yield and price/lb. formula that determines whether it will pay. I can't tell you the formula off the top of my head.

If you're sitting in your insurance agent's office in March and you believe that the price is going to fall a substantial amount, and a certain yield is going to be achieved in your area, but not enough to make up the difference in that yield/price formula, you can add STAX as a rider on your policy for $5-10/acre.

Like I said though, this is not fool proof. It truly is an educated gamble.
It hits probably 7-8% of the time, but there is enough data to get your chances up to probably 25-30% when you do decide to buy.

I will say, that if you're a better marketer and farmer than most in your area, and buy STAX on the right year, it prints money. I think the last time it hit, it paid around $150/acre in this area.


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Crop insurance is a “decent” safety net, like regular insurance the farmer can pick their coverage level and most end up around 75-90% of expected production. So in a disastrous year the farmer doesn’t go bankrupt, but it still likely hurts. They’re certainly better off making a crop and selling it vs collecting from insurance.

I’m not saying there’s never been a farmer that gamed insurance, but for the most part that’s nonexistent today. Farmers that only farmed for insurance aren’t in business any more.


This is absolutely correct. Insurance is no longer the game that some p.o.s.'s used to abuse. It's now more a safety net for good farmers that have the ability to recover, which is exactly what its purpose should be. It helps farmers that have bad luck one year get most of their bills paid so they can roll their losses into the next year's loan and try to get back right.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2875 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:43 am to
No, bc once they put the words deer corn on it the price will be $10.50.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12258 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:53 am to
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No, bc once they put the words deer corn on it the price will be $10.50.



It's triple cleaned and in pretty bags. Bring your barrels, boxes, trailers, whatever to our shop and I'll sell it to you for $5/bushel all day right now.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108597 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Bring your barrels, boxes, trailers, whatever to our shop and I'll sell it to you for $5/bushel all day right now.
Hmmm

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