re: Cons of CRP or WRP type programs?

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I was just interested in trying to get the property at a fair price bc of no timber on it really and have a chance to make a little income off of it somehow all while increasing the land value. If we could get a little income all while land value (hopefully) goes up over time. I would lay out my food plots and hunt it, but I just was just trying to justify getting it as a investment/pleasure property.

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I wish you the best, as I have found that there is not much of a difference in the cost of land with mature timber and no timber. Doesn't make much sense, and I'm sure if you look hard enough it can be found.

Its one thing to hope that your land will increase in value from your purchase price, but I wouldn't expect a ton of increase in value if you include your labor, cost of materials, etc. that you put into your property.

It’s probably that land you’re thinking. They’re asking a little much for it, but we considered putting in an offer and planting pines on part of it or fencing 40-50 acres and running some cows on it and hunting the rest of it. I’m not sure what the owner would take, but I’m pretty sure he’s only had it a year. You have any inside info on it?

Does the name of the road it's on start with the letter R or G?

We have land a couple miles from this property. It’s around Gordon station road. You know anything about Charlie Brown road off of 27 in Hinds county near Utica? My dad owns 100 acres over there.

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I was talking to my NRCS guys the other day and heard that this didn’t get funded. Take it for what it’s worth.

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They lied. I can tell you that for a fact. Or they are just saying that because they are a state that doesn't do CSP.

Only about a third of the country activity participates in CSP. There is a small cluster of counties that does CSP in Texas. The joke about the program is that it's the "Central States Program" from what I've been told by guys I know with NRCS.

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I’m not a fan of the programs in general. Most places don’t have enough farmland/pasture to go around as is, so there should always be tenant options.

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That's why the idea is to take marginal cropland and pasture out with those programs. The reality of these programs is they were created to control commodity prices during the farming crisis by taking low yield acres out of production.

I've seen some acres that should definitely be in these programs and have no business being farmed. Half the time, the sugarcane planted on them gets left in the field because it's too wet. The farmer would rather chance it with cane than plant rice, and the landowners don't care because they are making $100/acre for cane.

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They lied. I can tell you that for a fact. Or they are just saying that because they are a state that doesn't do CSP.

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It’s been done here before. I must have just misheard/understood them, then.

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That's why the idea is to take marginal cropland and pasture out with those programs.

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The idea is fine. I have no problems with truly marginal land which was just breaking people going out of production. The reality is I’ve seen several pieces of quality land go in which NEVER should have went in. I’m talking top-notch, class 1-2 soils which were levee protected. That’s utter BS.

At Pro: I hate to hear that about yields. Hopefully it all turns out alright. Our cotton also weathered pretty well, considering. At least the grain prices have finally rallied. We sold half of our stored corn yesterday.

Your must work for the government and apparently have never lived, worked, or serviced a contract in SW MS.

SW MS has more density of CRP tracts to acreage than almost anywhere in the nation. You know why? It was a beta in the original CRP legislation because of marginal farm ground being plowed directly into the lower MS delta because of erosion of upper loess soil. We planted cotton, corn, and beans on slopes a dual wheel tractor was scared to get on.

If it doesn't have a pine tree on it now, I promise someone at the NRCS office knows about it and wants to put a structure on it, and i promise you they get paid to print you out a contract.

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FSA doesn't approve EQIP.

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I didn't say they did.

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FSA approves food stamps,

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Lmao! No they don't.

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They subordinate to NRCS when conservation comes into account.

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No, NRCS does the technical aspects of the plan, but FSA manages CRP. NRCS has no control over when signups are announced nor does NRCS keep track of acreage caps.