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re: California poised to become first state to impose full ban on lead bullets
Posted on 9/17/13 at 3:37 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 9/17/13 at 3:37 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's such a shame that a state with that many incredible natural resources had to become a haven for the bleeding heart hippie idiots.
And they're overflowing unfortunately. Just look at Colorado. Hopefully they sent a message with the recall but who knows.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:00 pm to TigerDeacon
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So, 10 pieces of lead shot per square foot? That is crazy.
What's crazy is that they apparently think lead is some kind of industrial contaminant that can get into waterways and raise hell as opposed to an element mined from the ground to begin with....
Posted on 9/17/13 at 5:59 pm to Slickback
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I'm hoping we can get all the lead fishing weights off the shelves soon too. Tungsten is the way to go.
Despite your sarcasm, it is the ingestion of lead that is important, not simply placing the lead in water.
The leftover lead from before the ban was implemented is embedded well below the foraging zone for waterfowl. So despite lead being found naturally in the ground, it doesn't matter because you'd have to actually eat it for anything to happen. Ducks use their gizzards to grind up their food and need grit to do so, so if lead is available they will eat it right up just as if it were a rock or something. I work for the USGS so I may be biased but I wouldn't doubt their numbers on lead per acre. California has long had the longest waterfowl season (105 days right now I believe) and it's one of the top harvest states. I imagine most of you are waterfowl hunters (myself included) so it's probably best we educate ourselves before prematurely bitching about the government. With that being said, I don't believe lead should be banned statewide, that's just Democrats being Democrats and overreacting, but then again, if you don't like it then don't live in California.
Google Catahoula Lake and lead poisioning if you guys want to learn about the effects it has.
I just saw a moment to slip in and throw out some knowledge so there you go.
Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:13 pm to Veritas vincit
I have stopped using lead as much as possible myself.
Deer get shot with Barnes, squirrels get shot steel, doves get shot with steel....the times I still use lead for something I'm going to eat is .22 or .17 to the head of squirrels.
Maybe I'm overreacting but I feel better feeding my young nieces and nephews lead-free meat.
Few people will argue that excess lead in the body isn't something to be concerned about.
I don't understand the logic behind the motto of " it naturally occurs in the earth so it must not be too bad". Using that logic then asbestos, botulism, mercury, ricin, ect must not be "too bad" as well.
Someone saying: "well, I've been eating critters shot with lead for 25 years and I haven't dropped dead, so it must be fine" isn't going to convince me it's harmless.
Deer get shot with Barnes, squirrels get shot steel, doves get shot with steel....the times I still use lead for something I'm going to eat is .22 or .17 to the head of squirrels.
Maybe I'm overreacting but I feel better feeding my young nieces and nephews lead-free meat.
Few people will argue that excess lead in the body isn't something to be concerned about.
I don't understand the logic behind the motto of " it naturally occurs in the earth so it must not be too bad". Using that logic then asbestos, botulism, mercury, ricin, ect must not be "too bad" as well.
Someone saying: "well, I've been eating critters shot with lead for 25 years and I haven't dropped dead, so it must be fine" isn't going to convince me it's harmless.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 9/17/13 at 10:02 pm to ShubutaMS
You have a good point. Ca. is using hysteria as a backdoor way to eliminate guns from law abiding citizens.
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