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Bob Marshall Wilderness or Black Hills/Badlands NP...where should I backpack?

Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:50 am
Anyone here have experience in one or both of these? Looking to do a backcountry backpacking trip before winter. If there is another park to consider, let me know.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:34 am to
And what airport to fly into for The Bob?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:17 am to
If you get eaten by a grizzly, can the hamsters run the servers without you?
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:30 pm to
I would personally choose the Badlands. It's one of the places I haven't been, beautiful open country, Mt. Rushmore
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:12 pm to
I’ve been to the badlands and can’t really see it comparing to the Bob for a backpacking trip. The badlands I feel like a car camp and day hike trip would be a nice enough way to see things. You have to really want to see the Bob to see it.

Going to the Bob this year if the fires don’t ruin the trip like last time I planned. Seeing the Chinese wall has been on my list for a while.

The Bob will be more remote and not quite convenient to an airport. I plan on flying to Bozeman or Helena. There are big bears so take precautions also very remote.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:03 pm to
I want remote and solitude. Don't want to see other humans. I may end up going alone.

Have you been to the Black Hills?
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:23 pm to
The black hills are nice but not sure how much backcountry camping there is. After Labor day anything in Montana will be not very crowded. You may wan to avoid the Chinese wall because that is where everyone will be going. Hike in far and stay off the popular trails.

Funny thing is the fewest people I have ever seen on a trail is the Wild Azalea in Alexandria. Got to go to the least know places.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:28 pm to
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I want remote and solitude. Don't want to see other humans. I may end up going alone.
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Bob Marshall Wilderness


Any NP will have more people on it than a wilderness area. And the Bob is huge. Just be cognizant of local elk seasons and avoid going during peak rut (September-October).
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Just be cognizant of local elk seasons and avoid going during peak rut


Meh....if you want to go, go.

Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Meh....if you want to go, go.


I meant it from the standpoint of he may feel uncomfortable in an area that is being heavily hunted. And as a minimum should wear the same hunter's orange that is required of the hunters at the time.

Some people may be very turned off or not feel safe camping and backcountry backpacking during an active hunting season when people are taking shots across canyons at elk, etc...
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:29 pm to
There’s a reason my big 85L pack (read: winter) is bright arse orange
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:29 pm to
Badlands are much more scenic and colorful. Just overall much cooler. The Blackhills are more blah and almost seem to have no colors.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 5:01 pm to
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And as a minimum should wear the same hunter's orange that is required of the hunters at the time.

Without a doubt do this.

I love camping in the rockies during rut. Waking up to elk bugle in the distance is pretty nice.

Most of the backcountry elk hunters I have met are really polite to hikers. They even invited me to a meal and beer once. Just be respectful to them and they will reciprocate 99% of the time.

And they normally have beer and good food
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35750 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 5:11 pm to
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85L pack


Are you carrying your midget assistant in that thing?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 5:51 pm to
Someone has to cook my ribeyes

I do have a lightweight gossamer gear I use most of the time
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 6:20 pm to
You better be prepared if you go into the Bob, that is no kidding terrain and grizzly country.

The Black Hills are absolutely stunning and no Grizz.

One more recommendation for you - the Maah Daah Hey trail in North Dakota, basically connects the northern and southern units of Theodore Roosevelt National Park. It is 144 miles long, prefect for a multi-day adventure LINK Beautiful country that is often overlooked by the beautiful, but more accessible and touristy Black Hills of South Dakota.
Posted by canyon critter
Montana
Member since Feb 2019
1116 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 6:45 pm to
I just emailed you back! Consider the Missions, Bitterroots, Cabinets and Crazies over the Bob, especially since you’ll be alone. Glacier is incredible but you’ll likely see people. If you go to the Bob, you’ll possibly see people if you are near the Chinese Wall and because the CDT runs through it.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Maah Daah Hey trail in North Dakota, basically connects the northern and southern units of Theodore Roosevelt National Park.

That's a place I would love to see soon. Should be really isolated.
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:08 pm to
North Dakota is remote anyway, way off the beaten path and not a tourist destination like South Dakota. The northern unit of TRNP is one of the most beautiful areas I’ve ever seen, rivaled the Grand Canyon for sheer size/scope. It’s a hidden gem in the US for sure.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:34 pm to
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If there is another park to consider, let me know. 


The Beaten Path, ~30 mi, Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness (MT)

Wind River High Route, ~85 mi, Wind River Range (WY)

Neither of these require permits, there will be other people out there.

The Bob and Badlands are both on my list of places to go, as well as these 2 more under the radar spots. You really can't go wrong in the mountain west.

How many days and what kind of mileage are you looking for?
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 10:48 pm
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