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re: Beware long read: Young hunter's opinion on down duck season. Blame Mother Nature
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:46 am to lodgedup
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:46 am to lodgedup
I’ve been duck hunting for a looooooooonnnnnggggg time baw and I can tell you one thing: Duck hunting has been on the decline for a while now and it don’t help with the liberal limits that Canada and Mexico have...
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:10 am to Boat Motor Bandit
I had a 1800 acre lease near Lake Decade for 25 years.For many years our hunting was great and it was unusual not to limit.But we had very high water 4 or 5 years in a row before duck season due to tropical storms and hurricanes.Salt water killed all our food for a number of years, and the ducks never returned.We might kill a few before a strong cold front but we would shoot 'em once and they would be gone. We kept the lease and camp for 8 or 9 years after the hunting went bad because the fishing was so good. From my experience the ducks never returned to a huge area affected by the high salt water for years.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:25 am to michael corleone
I'll put this in terms that you can understand. I think what this young man is trying to say is ten years ago we had a grocery store a mile down the road and that same year it was closed. For 9 years we kept driving to the closed grocery store to see if it was opened yet but it was still closed. They opened up a grocery store across the street this year so we just started going there. Now the people who owned the closed grocery store are filing suit to the people who opened up the grocery store 9 years later because somehow it caused the first grocery store to go out of business.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:41 am to lodgedup
I’m old and have been duck hunting for 50 years....hard core for the last 30+ years.
Your explanation for no ducks in the marshes in Louisiana does not address why there were no ducks in Arkansas. It was the worst year ever here and it has been discussed in the newspaper on a couple of occasions and even on the local news. Arkansas Game and Fish tried sugar coating it at first by saying it will get better later in the season but even they gave up when it became apparent the duck hunting was not going to improve.
I have seen a downward trend in duck numbers over the past 10 years. I think the duck numbers are way down now (similar to the 1970s) but is being downplayed to keep the revenue stream of hunting licenses, stamps, and gear. They do not want to discourage hunters by going back to the 30 day season with a 3 duck limit.
Your explanation for no ducks in the marshes in Louisiana does not address why there were no ducks in Arkansas. It was the worst year ever here and it has been discussed in the newspaper on a couple of occasions and even on the local news. Arkansas Game and Fish tried sugar coating it at first by saying it will get better later in the season but even they gave up when it became apparent the duck hunting was not going to improve.
I have seen a downward trend in duck numbers over the past 10 years. I think the duck numbers are way down now (similar to the 1970s) but is being downplayed to keep the revenue stream of hunting licenses, stamps, and gear. They do not want to discourage hunters by going back to the 30 day season with a 3 duck limit.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:45 am to lodgedup
But you told me a month ago it was all the fault of Tony Vandemore. did you have a change in opinion?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:48 am to TheGhostOfBigLee
I also believe that increased harvest numbers in the upper flyway are playing a big part. I had an old friend who was on the Wisconsin game commission. He said thousands of duck hunters were now making trips to Canada and the Dakotas to duck hunt. If most kill their 3 day limit of 24, those are ducks that will never migrate. Think about it for a second. Very few people in La spent money going up north even 15 years ago. Now practically everyone I know with the financial means hunts there at sometime. When I went, all 10 hunters at the lodge were from La. Add in the fact that many more thousands from northern states are going due to close proximity and it would be a factor. Compound that with spinning wing decoys being especially effective on juvenile birds and it gets worse.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:52 am to Tigah D
I have heard the same reasons for the dismal hunting this year....too much water and a mild winter. I have kept a log for the 30+ years of my hunts including water and weather conditions. I have seen it all....no water, water everywhere, mild winter, harsh winter, etc. The conditions this year were not a once in a 100 year event. It has been seen before and there were always ducks before. Maybe not a bonanza year but you could at least be confident your chances were good to put something in your bag each day. This year, there was no confidence at all. Many mornings we would not even see a single duck or even hear anyone shoot in the distance all morning.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:55 am to gumbeaux
In your log what location are you focusing on as far as weather conditions? And what parish are you hunting if you don't mind me asking
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:58 am to BarryMcCokner
I live in the central part of Arkansas. My log includes close to 600 hunts.
I posted in this thread to point out that the hunting was not only dismal in Louisiana but also in Arkansas and other surrounding states.
I posted in this thread to point out that the hunting was not only dismal in Louisiana but also in Arkansas and other surrounding states.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:59 am to BarryMcCokner
Is this were we say it's D.U.'s fault.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:59 am to gumbeaux
And the water level of what? just the Mississippi? There are quite a number of smaller rivers in the Miss flyway that were loaded with water this year.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:06 am to BarryMcCokner
No....not the Mississippi. The excuse was that there was a lot of backwater in the Arkansas River, White River, and Cache River and there were expanses of fields that were flooded such that the ducks were spread out and not concentrated. My point is that this has been seen before in my 30+ years of hunting in Arkansas (close to 600 hunts) but not with the abysmal hunting that was experienced this year
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:56 am to gumbeaux
Oh I gotcha. Yea we were talking about that the other day. We were thinking it was rivers further north than Arkansas.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:59 am to gumbeaux
I'm here to tell you California had a bad year there as well until the last weekend. Good friend of mine is from over that way. It wasn't just us my friend.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:02 am to lodgedup
Learn how to use paragraphs
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:41 am to BarryMcCokner
I have heard the hunting was abysmal in Louisiana and Tennessee and I experienced it here in Arkansas. Now California. Supports my opinion that the duck population is way down.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:57 am to gumbeaux
That's not the case either I believe. Bunch of friends made a northern trip to Nebraska. Said it was wild. Just didn't get cold up north baw. Not every year is going to be lights out.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:07 pm to Ron Cheramie
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lots of ricefields have gone into sugarcane
this reason is like .001% of the cause of bad duck seasons
Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
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ricefields
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into crawfish operations
430,000 acres of rice and 200,000 acres of crawfish and that 200k includes grass and green rice ponds that are not included in the 430k
plus most of those former rice fields in vermillion and Cameron parish are still being hunted and managed for ducks
Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:48 pm to gumbeaux
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I think the duck numbers are way down now (similar to the 1970s) but is being downplayed to keep the revenue stream of hunting licenses, stamps, and gear. They do not want to discourage hunters
This. They are definitely downplaying it.
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