re: Best shotgun for home protection?

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1. Psychological - The sound of a 12 gauge cambering a round is very distinctive and in and of itself can make the intruder decide to get the hell out of there without the homeowner even having to fire a shot.

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I can speak to this being true. Had a home intruder break in and my Lab was going ape shite. Went straight to my guns and grabbed my 870 and a hand full of shells. Walked across the house to where he was, (my lab had the guy pinned under a bed) stood in the doorway and chambered a shell. As soon as I did the guy bolted out from under the bed, threw open a window and hauled arse into the woods next to our house.

Turned out it was someone I knew. Broke into the house looking for pain pills.

I use a Mossberg 500 20" barrel with 7 shells in the tube and one in the chamber. Fore grip. Blackhawk recoil reducing folding stock. Flashlight mounted on it as well.

00 Low Recoil Buckshot.

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you need to consider that this board is read by people who do not have the same firearms training as others. And to suggest that everyone should keep a loaded and chambered shotgun easily accessible in their house is beyond absurd and could end up getting someone (or their child) killed.

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Get outta here with all of that reason and logic of yours.

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Get outta here with all of that reason and logic of yours.

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Well it's attitudes like the one he's posting that gets innocent people killed. Let's take the OP of this thread for example. I'm thinking they are a woman from the username (Ammylove) and being that they are asking for advice on here, probably not exactly a firearms expert. if she were to take his advice she'd have a fully loaded and chambered 12 gauge shotgun laying under her bed or propped up between the bed and nightstand. Now who is more likely to come into her room where that loaded shotgun is at today?

Her little kid?

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the guy that just killed someone and is on the run and looking for a house to take some hostages or to hunker down in?


I know he wants to sound like a firearms expect but in his efforts he's forgetting the number one rule of firearms that any instructor will hammer home first and foremost. S.A.F.E.T.Y.

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In just curious, but what is your take one what you should do for home defense?

Assuming it is night...

For instance, if my wife opens her bedside table (where the .38 is stored) I can hear it in my living room. If she got up and went to the safe in the closet no doubt I hear the door while she is opening it.

Both instances she has "given away" her position. However he has one point of entry to get to her. A 3'6" door way 15' away (well, 13'6" at the end of the barrel). If that door opens and she sees that a shot is needed I have more faith in her hitting the target with a 12ga than the .38.

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You can hear her do those things when you are listening for them. An intruder who is likely banging on the door or breaking a window will not hear you grabbing a gun out of a drawer. I agree with her remaining in the room drawn down on the door, but there are instances where one might need to move through the house to protect other people. In those situations it would not be bright to reveal the direction you will be coming from.

I agree she should use a shotgun. I'm not advocating she use a pistol rather than a shot gun. The only thing i am advocating is that she not rack the shotgun hoping the intruder leaves, or rely on the spread of a shotgun to just simply "point in the general direction."

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Well it's attitudes like the one he's posting that gets innocent people killed. Let's take the OP of this thread for example. I'm thinking they are a woman from the username (Ammylove) and being that they are asking for advice on here, probably not exactly a firearms expert. if she were to take his advice she'd have a fully loaded and chambered 12 gauge shotgun laying under her bed or propped up between the bed and nightstand. Now who is more likely to come into her room where that loaded shotgun is at today?

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I'm with you on the safety aspect, but there is a difference in racking a shotgun to create a sound, and racking a shotgun to chamber a round.

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I agree with her remaining in the room drawn down on the door, but there are instances where one might need to move through the house to protect other people.

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You are presenting a scenario that is extremely far fetched. Basically a scenario where it takes someone prolonged time to break a window, then enter a part of your home that allows them full access while obscuring their vision. You are slipping down some hallway to your kids with ninja like skills to protect them.

Btw, if you had the choice between your kids and you getting found by this hostage taking monster you are saying try to hide your position. I would rather him come to me, someone with protection, than my children who are probably now awake and coming out their room.

Btw, the last part is dealing with someone who is looking for hostages. Doubtful he breaks a window, looks in the nook, then leaves because he didnt see anyone sleeping in there at 3am.

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Having buckshot instead of a slug means you only have to point in the general direction and have an almost 100% chance at incapacitating the intruder with one shot.

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Yes there is recoil but the good part is that you will only need to fire once and then you'll have the rest of your long life to rcover from it's shock.

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You are presenting a scenario that is extremely far fetched. Basically a scenario where it takes someone prolonged time to break a window, then enter a part of your home that allows them full access while obscuring their vision. You are slipping down some hallway to your kids with ninja like skills to protect them.

Btw, if you had the choice between your kids and you getting found by this hostage taking monster you are saying try to hide your position. I would rather him come to me, someone with protection, than my children who are probably now awake and coming out their room.

Btw, the last part is dealing with someone who is looking for hostages. Doubtful he breaks a window, looks in the nook, then leaves because he didnt see anyone sleeping in there at 3am.

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I don't even know where to begin. I'll give this a go. First I am thinking of a scenario where a person is trying to gain access to your house. This is usually though a window or door. My dogs will let me know if someone is trying to kick my door in, or if someone is breaking a window. It is not unthinkable that it may take someone 10-15 seconds to break a window or kick on a door before they are able to enter. That is time to retrieve a gun from a drawer without them hearing you.

Second, I am talking about moving through a house to try to confront the intruder before they have access to your kids. This is a situation that all people with kids should go through in their mind and practice. I would absolutely move through my house to protect my kids before I sat in the room waiting for the intruder. I think you misunderstood me there.

Lastly, taking of a hostage was just a situation I through out there. There are multiple scenarios that could happen where the intruder might be more likely to shoot you or your family rather than flee. I am not saying they are likely, but it only takes one.

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I agree with you then that you shouldn't rely on only that. But if it works, then great. If not, they're getting lit up with 00 buck.

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So you hear someone kicking your door trying to gain entrance. You wait until that person is inside your house to chamber a round so they will hear it?