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Any Protein that deer like but not coon?
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:39 am
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:39 am
We have been wanting to feed protein in the spring but worried about the loss to coon. We've got an army of the bastards.
Any protein that deer will eat that coons don't necessarily like?
Is or a reliable method of feeding that limits the coons?
Tia
Any protein that deer will eat that coons don't necessarily like?
Is or a reliable method of feeding that limits the coons?
Tia
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:39 am to GREENHEAD22
Soybeans
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:45 am to mylsuhat
Roasted, plain or either?
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:49 am to GREENHEAD22
Maybe cotton seed. I have not tried it, but it was the first thing that came to mind.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 9:05 am to Manchac Man
I looked into that, only could find clean seed that is used for planting.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 3:48 pm to mylsuhat
Soybeans. 100%
Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:16 pm to GREENHEAD22
If you’re not buying it in large enough quantities that coon theft is immaterial, it’s not enough to help the deer.
There are some eye opening podcasts from MSU deer lab, talking about this topic with a biologist that works in S TX. If it’s true there, it dang sure is in LA, MS.
There are some eye opening podcasts from MSU deer lab, talking about this topic with a biologist that works in S TX. If it’s true there, it dang sure is in LA, MS.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:55 pm to turkish
How are you listening to it? My podcast app only let's me preview.
The guy who had the lease before me feed 4k lbs one spring. I won't be feed that much.
It's 600 acres.
The guy who had the lease before me feed 4k lbs one spring. I won't be feed that much.
It's 600 acres.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:26 pm to GREENHEAD22
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The guy who had the lease before me feed 4k lbs one spring. I won't be feed that much.
It's 600 acres.
That's two tons of 28% protein over 600 acres.
For comparison, one acre of fertilized native vegetation can produce 2-3 tons of herbaceous material of comparative protein levels. Planted legume crops such as clover or joint vetch can produce 4-6 tons of high protein material per acre.
Feeding deer protein doesn't work. It doesn't increase lactation rates. It doesn't doesn't increase body weights. It doesn't allow bucks to grow bigger horns.
If anything, it take time and money away from things you could be doing that can really have an impact. Like disking, burning, fertilizing native vegetation. Or planting crops. Just my 2c.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:44 pm to GREENHEAD22
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The guy who had the lease before me feed 4k lbs one spring. I won't be feed that much. It's 600 acres.
If feeding protein worked, that guy would have never left the lease
Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:50 pm to Ron Cheramie
Well he moved soo. But the lease has bigger deer than what is typical for that part of the state.
And correction, it was four bulk bags so 8k but No Colors point still stands.
We planted 5 acres of cow peas last week and have 100 acres of peanuts and two solid stands of clover so the extra feed is probably not needed.
You're not normally a dbag.
And correction, it was four bulk bags so 8k but No Colors point still stands.
We planted 5 acres of cow peas last week and have 100 acres of peanuts and two solid stands of clover so the extra feed is probably not needed.
You're not normally a dbag.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:58 pm to No Colors
Not saying you are wrong but a ton of big money clubs paying big money biologists/management experts feed tons of protein.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:20 pm to GREENHEAD22
There’s a protein feed called Deer365 that claims to be coon, bear, and rain resistant. Google it and call the number to talk to the owner, he’ll tell you all about it. Obviously he has a personal interest, but the development story and his claims of results are intriguing. I’m going to give it a try once our current protein pellet supply is out. They’re still building out distribution, but there is one in the MS Delta where you can buy or they will deliver.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:45 pm to CountMeIn
Owner is nice and informative. I’ve used it along with others with great results. Only problem is finding it.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:57 pm to GREENHEAD22
On the normal Apple podcast app. I’m no expert. Can’t overstate how good their content is, though.
I know a guy in NW Jeff cty that feeds something like 6k lbs a month on 200 acres. Has for years. Can’t tell a difference.
I imagine it may help, it just takes tons and tons to move the needle. And on a lease there’s only so much you can do.
I know a guy in NW Jeff cty that feeds something like 6k lbs a month on 200 acres. Has for years. Can’t tell a difference.
I imagine it may help, it just takes tons and tons to move the needle. And on a lease there’s only so much you can do.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:58 pm to turkish
Spotify has full access.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:29 pm to No Colors
I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. I’m not saying feeding protein will make you start killing book deer, but it definitely will help if you can afford it.
Our bucks and does are above average for Ms delta, and we are carrying 1:6 deer/acre @ a 1:1.5 bucks/doe ratios. I can tell when they are lacking natural brows. Late winter and late summer protein consumption will almost double.
That doesn’t mean you should slack on food plots and natural brows management.
Our bucks and does are above average for Ms delta, and we are carrying 1:6 deer/acre @ a 1:1.5 bucks/doe ratios. I can tell when they are lacking natural brows. Late winter and late summer protein consumption will almost double.
That doesn’t mean you should slack on food plots and natural brows management.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:08 am to GREENHEAD22
Soybeans....Just dont get the watermelon flavored ones
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:44 am to GREENHEAD22
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Not saying you are wrong but a ton of big money clubs paying big money biologists/management experts feed tons of protein
Check out episode 34 and report back. This guy works for the Bass family in TX. Do some reading on their spread
ETA: in case you’ve heard of the Bass family but can’t remember where... LINK /
I suspect the big money clubs you hear about feeding protein either have “managers” (not biologists) that don’t know any better. Or perhaps they’ve already filled all the “lower holes in the bucket,” and their next step is genuinely to start feeding protein.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:52 pm to turkish
Talk about being lucky and being related to Ole Sid Richardson. I am familiar with the Bass family.
I will give it a listen when I have time.
One club in particular I can think of definitely uses a biologists, they fly him in 3-4 times a year.
I will give it a listen when I have time.
One club in particular I can think of definitely uses a biologists, they fly him in 3-4 times a year.
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