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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:30 pm to Hammertime
Definitely, but it's really only good for slapping stuff together. There isn't enough adjustment to lay a decent weld down. Sure it will hold two pieces of metal together but that's about it.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:38 pm to CarRamrod
I got a Miller 211 fully rigged out with a big bottle of gas and some cart they gave me for $1100. Had to shop around though
Get a quality grinder from Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, or Metabo. Also, I have heard okay things about the portable bandsaw at HF. Take that with a grain of salt. I'd trade my chopsaw for a portable bandsaw right now
Get a quality grinder from Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, or Metabo. Also, I have heard okay things about the portable bandsaw at HF. Take that with a grain of salt. I'd trade my chopsaw for a portable bandsaw right now
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:44 pm to Hammertime
I hear you on the portaband. They are just so versatile.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:45 pm to Hammertime
quote:where from
I got a Miller 211 fully rigged out with a big bottle of gas and some cart they gave me for $1100. Had to shop around though
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:47 pm to tigNstick629
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:50 pm to CarRamrod
Uh oh. Sorry thinking about the 212. But yes that is also a good machine. Will have a little more capability than the one I linked earlier.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:14 pm to tigNstick629
there is a 251 on craiglisst near me for 1500 but it looks heavily used.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:36 pm to CarRamrod
If you aren't in a hurry it would definitely be worth it to wait on a used one. You should be able to find one in good shape for that price. I can't remember where, but I saw one with the good aluminum spool gun and everything in pretty good shape about 2 months ago for $1600. That was a DEAL.
Anyways, like I said don't be afraid of a used machine but use you judgment. You can tell the difference between used and abused.
Quality welding machines (miller for electric, Lincoln engine driven) hold up very well over time. Hell one of the best machines ever are the old Lincoln sa 200 (red face) from the 60s are still sought after to this day and are on a good number of the welding rigs you on the road because they last and still produce such a smooth arc and weld so GOOD...
Sry getting carried away. For your purposes though if you want to stay new, I don't think you can go wrong with either machine Hammertime or myself listed. And for the price hammertime got his ready to go for I'd lean that way.
Anyways, like I said don't be afraid of a used machine but use you judgment. You can tell the difference between used and abused.
Quality welding machines (miller for electric, Lincoln engine driven) hold up very well over time. Hell one of the best machines ever are the old Lincoln sa 200 (red face) from the 60s are still sought after to this day and are on a good number of the welding rigs you on the road because they last and still produce such a smooth arc and weld so GOOD...
Sry getting carried away. For your purposes though if you want to stay new, I don't think you can go wrong with either machine Hammertime or myself listed. And for the price hammertime got his ready to go for I'd lean that way.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:50 pm to CHEDBALLZ
quote:
we are the largest fabricator on the Gulf.
GIF?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:55 pm to CarRamrod
I might've gotten it from Airgas. Can't remember though
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:28 pm to tigNstick629
no problem. i like to do my research before i make a big purchase.
how is refurbished equipment?
LINK
how is refurbished equipment?
LINK
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:50 pm to CarRamrod
CR, to your OP, I know it's not in your area but at SWCC in Summit, MS my buddy teaches the welding course. I had a few months on my hands a few years back and went a couple times a week.
He taught me well enough to pass the overhead plate test and within a month how to pass a 6G pipe test. I always wanted to know more about welding since being in design and engineering my whole life.
Also, Lowes carries a damn good Lincoln stick welder for about 300 bucks.
He taught me well enough to pass the overhead plate test and within a month how to pass a 6G pipe test. I always wanted to know more about welding since being in design and engineering my whole life.
Also, Lowes carries a damn good Lincoln stick welder for about 300 bucks.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 11:21 pm to CarRamrod
I wish id get off my arse and sign up for classes and make a career change
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:38 am to CarRamrod
That's a good machine and what I would go with. Get that a decent grinder for $30 and this Band Saw and you'll be well on your way. That band saw can be used as a verticle band saw and horizontal.
As far as grinders go. I've had a job using a grinder from the time I was 15 till just a few years ago. I've used old school black and deckers, Metabo, Milwaukee, Dewalt, Harbor Freight, Makita, and the orange black and deckers. A few months ago I went out and bought a new grinder for the house and went with Harbor Freight. For the amount that I use it suits me just fine. If I decided tomorrow to open a welding shop I'm going all Metabo.
As far as cut off blades we've used all different types. Again, at the price point that they are sold for and how quick they cut the Harbor Freight cut off wheels are fine. Best I've ever used was Flexovit, they last and cut really good.
Best advice I can give you for a grinder is to not remove the guard and make sure your shirt is tucked in. Wear glasses, a long sleeve shirt and full face shield.
These are the gloves that I always worked with, except I used the Tillman brand. They held up pretty good, the sleeve around the wrist keeps out the BB's and they were thin enough that you could feel what you what you doing and thick enough to be okay to weld with.
As far as grinders go. I've had a job using a grinder from the time I was 15 till just a few years ago. I've used old school black and deckers, Metabo, Milwaukee, Dewalt, Harbor Freight, Makita, and the orange black and deckers. A few months ago I went out and bought a new grinder for the house and went with Harbor Freight. For the amount that I use it suits me just fine. If I decided tomorrow to open a welding shop I'm going all Metabo.
As far as cut off blades we've used all different types. Again, at the price point that they are sold for and how quick they cut the Harbor Freight cut off wheels are fine. Best I've ever used was Flexovit, they last and cut really good.
Best advice I can give you for a grinder is to not remove the guard and make sure your shirt is tucked in. Wear glasses, a long sleeve shirt and full face shield.
These are the gloves that I always worked with, except I used the Tillman brand. They held up pretty good, the sleeve around the wrist keeps out the BB's and they were thin enough that you could feel what you what you doing and thick enough to be okay to weld with.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:17 am to CarRamrod
I wouldn't have a problem with refurbished equipment.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:02 am to CarRamrod
Go to the BRCC website, click on workforce education and look for the AWS 120hr class. I believe its $500 for the class.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:05 am to tigNstick629
well damn. now i need to decide if i really want to drop the money. i think i would either go with the very first one i linked due to price point, or get tat refirbed 250. i hate to buy the 400$ machine just to buy the refirbed 1500 later.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:38 am to CarRamrod
Haha I know the feeling. Like I said earlier nothing to do with welding is cheap and always buy a little more machine than you think you need but only you can make that choice.
About the duty cycle again: I know 3-4 minutes of welding out of every 10 doesn't sound like a lot, but in reality even in a commercial/industrial setting, if you have 40% of a 10hr day under the hood you are doing a LOT of welding. There is always prep, fabrication, and cleaning/grinding to do.
ETA. Thinking it over a little more, I think you'd be fine with what either Hammertime or myself linked. Millermatic 190 or 211 I believe. It'll be a smaller setup, you can use small rolls of wire, and just get like a medium bottle of 75/25 (75%argon,25%CO2). It will produce good welds and if you get into it and decide you need to upgrade, you can always sell it and get a decent chunk of you money back to put on a new setup.
About the duty cycle again: I know 3-4 minutes of welding out of every 10 doesn't sound like a lot, but in reality even in a commercial/industrial setting, if you have 40% of a 10hr day under the hood you are doing a LOT of welding. There is always prep, fabrication, and cleaning/grinding to do.
ETA. Thinking it over a little more, I think you'd be fine with what either Hammertime or myself linked. Millermatic 190 or 211 I believe. It'll be a smaller setup, you can use small rolls of wire, and just get like a medium bottle of 75/25 (75%argon,25%CO2). It will produce good welds and if you get into it and decide you need to upgrade, you can always sell it and get a decent chunk of you money back to put on a new setup.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 9:51 am
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