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Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:02 pm to theDORSEY72
I only caught the tail end of it. Somebody asked him if this was a time for celebration. He handled that quite well, I thought. He said no way. He said when there's been a disaster like this including loss of life, destruction to the environment, damage to people's livelihood, even if the cap holds, you don't celebrate that. There's still a lot of work to do but he did express hope that a corner has been turned in this whole thing.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:04 pm to theDORSEY72
basically not to get too excited and celebrate because they have so many tests to complete over the next few days. no guarantee of success.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:23 pm to MountainTiger
Pretty freaking amazing the difference between Suttles and Hayward when dealing with the press.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:34 pm to TigerTailsSoup
Suttles is ok in my book....Hayward on the other hand is a total douche....
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:40 pm to back9Tiger
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Suttles is ok in my book....Hayward on the other hand is a total douche....
Agreed on both points and I'd say Kent Wells has been really good as well. I think he has tried to keep everyone informed and I've gotten a lot of really good information from him.
Heyward...OMFG. Even if the guy isn't really a douche he was unable to keep from appearing to be a douche. Every time he opened his mouth, there goes his foot.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 4:58 pm to MountainTiger
I think Ken Wells is going to get courted to an ExxonMobil or Shell or Chevron, COP etc and go to work there. He has great experience on stuff that no one has now. Very valuable to another firm. I think the BP office in Houston if they pinch BP for 7 years is in trouble.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 5:26 pm to back9Tiger
I like Ken Wells' presentations and demeanor. Clear, controlled presentation and to the point. No BS.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 5:53 pm to ccw
Same here. Things that would bug the shite out of me he handles in stride. Back9 brings up a good point. He probably sees these updates as job interviews.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:25 pm to MountainTiger
Hi Gang.
Like everyone else, I'm REALLY hoping that the current tests will have some very positive results. And along these lines, I wonder if some of you folks might be able to enlighten us newbies about just how they're going about testing everything.
That is, now that the oil flow has been completely stopped, how can different types of tests be carried out on the current configuration? Are they applying any kinds of downward pressure pulses on the BOP and/or oil column?
I ask this because Kent Wells mentioned in the PM press briefing that everyone has worked very hard to design this testing procedure so that they could obtain as much info as possible. And since I don't know diddly about the kinds of different tests that might be possible with this set-up, I'd definitely be curious to hear some educated guesstimates and/or explanations.
Since we're coming up on the 4 hour mark since the column was shut off, one would certainly think that they've already gotten a pretty good idea of the current pressures within the oil column. And as long as there hasn't been any type of ruptures, cracks, etc. on the sea floor, I'm cautiously optimistic that they just might make it through the rest of the evening without any more serious glitches.
Sure would be nice to get some more of those very special "insider" reports that were being leaked to us several weeks ago.
And thanks for any info that some of you might be able to offer to the rest of us.
Like everyone else, I'm REALLY hoping that the current tests will have some very positive results. And along these lines, I wonder if some of you folks might be able to enlighten us newbies about just how they're going about testing everything.
That is, now that the oil flow has been completely stopped, how can different types of tests be carried out on the current configuration? Are they applying any kinds of downward pressure pulses on the BOP and/or oil column?
I ask this because Kent Wells mentioned in the PM press briefing that everyone has worked very hard to design this testing procedure so that they could obtain as much info as possible. And since I don't know diddly about the kinds of different tests that might be possible with this set-up, I'd definitely be curious to hear some educated guesstimates and/or explanations.
Since we're coming up on the 4 hour mark since the column was shut off, one would certainly think that they've already gotten a pretty good idea of the current pressures within the oil column. And as long as there hasn't been any type of ruptures, cracks, etc. on the sea floor, I'm cautiously optimistic that they just might make it through the rest of the evening without any more serious glitches.
Sure would be nice to get some more of those very special "insider" reports that were being leaked to us several weeks ago.
And thanks for any info that some of you might be able to offer to the rest of us.

This post was edited on 7/15/10 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:36 pm to TomTide
I guess pressure and flow are the two most critical parts now, that and looking for leaks and doing seismic testing to see how the strata is doing... just conjecture though.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:41 pm to TomTide
Tom, if you've been following Kent's 2-a-day updates you probably know everything I do. What they will be looking at is the pressure within the stack and perhaps more importantly, how it changes over time. Ideally what they would be wanting to see is a gradual increase in pressure as they were choking back. Once the choke was completely closed, they want to see a pressure in the range of 8-9000 psi. This indicates that the well is holding. Further, they want to see that pressure remain steady over a long period of time. If it fluctuates or drops, it probably indicates a leak or rupture somewhere. Exactly how the fluctuation occurs will probably give them some indication as to the type of failure and where it is occurring. If they see that the pressure doesn't hold or if it drops suddenly then something has probably burst and they will immediately abandon the test and resume collection.
Keep in mind that this is a test and its goal is to learn more about the well. Whether the pressure holds or not, they will accomplish this either way. Of course we all want it to hold but we shouldn't consider the test a failure if that doesn't happen. In that eventuality, the well failed but the test didn't. It did what it was supposed to do.
With that said, I think the first few hours were the most critical. If the well was going to fail, it most likely would have done so soon after the pressure increased. That's not to say we're out of the woods by any means but I think we're past the first hurdle. Let's hope their luck holds out; Lord knows they're due for some.
Edit: back9 also brought up a good point about the sonar survey. Prior to the test they did a sonar survey to establish a baseline. Now they can compare the current sonar readings to the baseline to see if anything has changed.
Keep in mind that this is a test and its goal is to learn more about the well. Whether the pressure holds or not, they will accomplish this either way. Of course we all want it to hold but we shouldn't consider the test a failure if that doesn't happen. In that eventuality, the well failed but the test didn't. It did what it was supposed to do.
With that said, I think the first few hours were the most critical. If the well was going to fail, it most likely would have done so soon after the pressure increased. That's not to say we're out of the woods by any means but I think we're past the first hurdle. Let's hope their luck holds out; Lord knows they're due for some.
Edit: back9 also brought up a good point about the sonar survey. Prior to the test they did a sonar survey to establish a baseline. Now they can compare the current sonar readings to the baseline to see if anything has changed.
This post was edited on 7/15/10 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:48 pm to MountainTiger
MT,
Thanks, as always, for the very good response.
And I REALLY like hearing about the importance of the first few hours. I was very much hoping that this is, indeed, the case, since common sense would tell us that if things were really going to bust loose very badly after the shutdown, it would probably happen not too long after everything was closed off this afternoon.
These next 12 hours oughta been quite interesting for everybody that's monitoring the procedure, and maybe we might even get a few hints from somebody before we all have to turn in for the night.
And since the 1st relief well is now very close to the original column, maybe a successful pressure testing result will increase the likelihood that the final kill operation has an excellent probability of working as planned.
Thanks, as always, for the very good response.
And I REALLY like hearing about the importance of the first few hours. I was very much hoping that this is, indeed, the case, since common sense would tell us that if things were really going to bust loose very badly after the shutdown, it would probably happen not too long after everything was closed off this afternoon.
These next 12 hours oughta been quite interesting for everybody that's monitoring the procedure, and maybe we might even get a few hints from somebody before we all have to turn in for the night.
And since the 1st relief well is now very close to the original column, maybe a successful pressure testing result will increase the likelihood that the final kill operation has an excellent probability of working as planned.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:52 pm to TomTide
Let's keep this fricker plugged up! 

Posted on 7/15/10 at 6:55 pm to Rohan2Reed
Heh!
I'm wit ya on that one. And that's about my level of expertise when it comes to all of this incredibly complex underwater oil drilling.
I'm wit ya on that one. And that's about my level of expertise when it comes to all of this incredibly complex underwater oil drilling.

Posted on 7/15/10 at 7:46 pm to MountainTiger
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Every time he opened his mouth, there goes his foot.

dont know why, but i found that hilarious
Posted on 7/15/10 at 8:41 pm to TomTide
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And since the 1st relief well is now very close to the original column, maybe a successful pressure testing result will increase the likelihood that the final kill operation has an excellent probability of working as planned.
Without a doubt if they can keep the well shut in it simplifies the bottom kill. They will have a 18,000+ foot mud column to play with instead of just 13,000 feet.
Posted on 7/15/10 at 8:45 pm to MountainTiger
Just occurred to me that the ROV cams are a lot more boring now.
Here's to boring!

Here's to boring!

Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:53 am to MountainTiger
ROV's are quiet. That's encouraging.
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