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re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)

Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:28 pm to
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If I understand correctly, the Q4000 will be handling the capture via the C/K lines. Not sure what it can store, but I guess the shuttle barges will be scheduled based on either the needs of the Enterprise or the Q4000.


That would make sense. I doubt it (the Q4000) can store much but they can offload to a barge as it's produced.

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I have heard that long-term there will be a new LMRP, detachable production riser and FPSO set-up.

I know that was the plan prior to abandoning the LMRP cap approach. The detachable riser means they could GTFO if a storm comes.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:39 pm to
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MountainTiger


Love the sig quote! So true!
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:49 pm to
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Love the sig quote! So true!

Thanks. That actually dates back to the Peterson interception controversy in the Bama game. It certainly still applies though.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:54 pm to
ROV showing lots of little fish swimming around one of the ships.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 5:04 pm to
Confirmed. 20K BPD is the hope for the combined amounts of both vessels recovering through both risers.

Several weeks down the road another platform will replace the ship and will further increase production.
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Posted by paulie
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:15 pm to
I'm just catching up on the progress today. 11,000+ bbl captured yesterday is encouraging news. Like someone said earlier, that's 11,000 bbl that aren't leaking into the gulf.

The decision to go with the top hat vs the LMRP seems a bit clearer now if the capacity of the Enterprise is 15,000 bbd.

For those that know, after a normal well is completed with drilling and the well is cemented and abandoned for production at a later date, don't they remove the BOP? Prior to production a "christmas tree" is installed on the wellhead in lieu of the BOP?

The Enterprise is operating with a damaged BOP and no "christmas tree". The "top hat" with its "loose" leaking flange and open vent valves allows for some sort of pressure relief as a safety measure.

I'm only speculating on these details, but it seems to make sense now. I know we all aren't happy with the amount they are capturing right now, but "it is what it is" and is better than no capture. Without a "christmas tree" and the capacity to fully take on all the well can produce with the Enterprise vessel, we must take into consideration the safety of the personnel on the Enterprise ship.

Use of the auxillary Q4000 ship will allow more recovery of the oil / gas through another outlet in the BOP.
Posted by paulie
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:26 pm to
FYI.

BP had another technical update today from Kent Wells, one is pictorial with a 30 minute audio commentary. Listening to it right now:

LINK
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:30 pm to
I don't know about the removing of the BOP part so I won't comment on that.

But on the second part. The LMRP they first wanted to use was not used because of the cut and capacity would be the same for either do to the ship... which is only temporary. But I am thinking that the LMRP would have been better because what it didn't catch would have been contained in the well possibly.

Apparently the resulting increase in pressure at the BOP wasn't an issue or it wouldn't have been their first choice.

So everything you said seems to make sense except it must not be valid or they would never have tried the LMRP.
Posted by MoreOrLes
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:41 pm to
2 Drill Pipes in one riser......WTF??????????
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:47 pm to
Yes the BOP is removed after the well is TA. I can't see how having a xmas tree on would change the amount of oil they capture much. If they capture more than the Enterprise's capacity simply transfer it to another vessel. I would assume they have vessels offloading the Enterprise and taking the oil to the nearest production platform. I know the large work boats can carry 10,000 + bbls of mud and water.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:48 pm to
I think there will be two risers going to two different ship.
Posted by MoreOrLes
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:57 pm to
No the BP audio update link above, near the end a reporter asked "When the riser was cut it appeared as though two drill pipes were in it. Was that the case?" The answer that was given was alarming. "We are not sure. When we get it topside we'll know better why it appears that way."


I'm using quotes but I did paraphrase.


WTF it does not sound like anyone expected to see 2.
Posted by paulie
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:16 pm to
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Yes the BOP is removed after the well is TA. I can't see how having a xmas tree on would change the amount of oil they capture much. If they capture more than the Enterprise's capacity simply transfer it to another vessel. I would assume they have vessels offloading the Enterprise and taking the oil to the nearest production platform. I know the large work boats can carry 10,000 + bbls of mud and water.


I wasn't referring to the storage capacity on the Enterprise but the processing capacity of 15,000 bbl / day. With that comes some sort of flaring rate which I don't know. A few days after the explosion they were concerned with methane hydrates possibly causing the explosion? Still a lot of unanswered questions, but my point is that the Top Hat or LMRP as they are calling it now, with the loose fit allows some pressure relief and regulation of the flow. The Christmas Tree in a "normal" well would provide some sort of pressure drop and control when a well goes into production, although it does look like the Enterprise has some sort of valve package hanging off the bottom of it too. In summary, all I'm saying is the route they took with the looser fitting cap (LMRP) was the more conservative one and safer for now until they know what they are dealing with.

Also, in the audio clip, Kent Wells describes that the cap they currently have in place occupies a lot of volume and what we are seeing on the feed is the oil / gas coming around the void space in the annulus between the cap and the cut riser so not all of that volume we see is actually oil (looks a lot bigger than it actually is).
Posted by Oyster
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:48 pm to
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2 Drill Pipes in one riser......WTF


Could be one of the casing strings herniated thru the BOP along with the Drill pipe.

They already have the riser kink they cut out topside. I would guess they already know.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:24 pm to
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No the BP audio update link above, near the end a reporter asked "When the riser was cut it appeared as though two drill pipes were in it. Was that the case?" The answer that was given was alarming. "We are not sure. When we get it topside we'll know better why it appears that way."


I has heard this but had not posted because it was only mentioned once and never again. I think the two pipes were visually observed by ROV camera in the section of the riser that was cut. Not sure how that would happen. I would have thought the riser would be topside by now.

This would explain a lot as to why the top kill did not work (or why their calculations were off). Twice as much was escaping through the top of the riser as they anticipated so not as much mud whent down hole as calculated.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:26 pm to
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They already have the riser kink they cut out topside.


Are you sure about that?
Posted by Oyster
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:45 pm to
Are you sure about that?
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I am making the asumption that is top side based upon the fact it was in a sling attached to a crane topside. Much easier to bring it up than to get an rov to detach it.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:57 pm to
Just went and listened to the technical update. Wells indicated that the riser has not been brought topside yet. I had not heard that it had either.
Posted by Oyster
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Just went and listened to the technical update. Wells indicated that the riser has not been brought topside yet. I had not heard that it had either.


I believe Wells said that. However, I believe it is topside. Why would they not want to look at it? Why would they unsling it?
Totally my believe based on nothing more than that.
Posted by GM4UA
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 10:09 pm to
Tuned in to the cams for the first time today, and judging from Skandi 2, there does seem to be less oil escaping from around the cap. Less of a gush anyway. A few more thousand barrels a day and we'll be in business.

What are they measuring with the inclinometer? Another plan in the works?
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