- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Like I have been saying all along
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:51 am to CptBengal
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:51 am to CptBengal
quote:
your visual inspection of the water is obviously definitive enough
Well what are you seeing smart-arse?
I'm down here on the water and we are finding oil sheen and foam. What does your reports tell you about that? The main body of oil is just floating around in the Gulf NOT making landfall. The boats that I am working with are finding no oil in Barataria Bay.
2
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:53 am to BasClas
quote:
BasClas
You're right, the oil is evaporating.....
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:54 am to CptBengal
quote:
Problem solved! It evaporated!
YEP, problem solved!!
a-hole
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:59 am to BasClas
There have been numerous sightings of oil on the marshes all throughout barataria bay. Why is there a group of scientists going out to spray microbial agent on the marshes this weekend if there wasnt any oil? The entire bay is not covered in thick oil but patches have been making its way in for over a month.
Here are confirmed accounts from June 18th alone
Oil sheen located 2.75 miles E of Pelican Point in Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil sheen located .6 miles W of Bird Reef in Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil sheen with tar balls located .64 miles N of Grand Terre in Pass Abel.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil located .82 miles W SW of the northern tip of Grand Terre.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Thick oil located 2 miles NW of St Mary's point in N Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Here are confirmed accounts from June 18th alone
Oil sheen located 2.75 miles E of Pelican Point in Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil sheen located .6 miles W of Bird Reef in Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil sheen with tar balls located .64 miles N of Grand Terre in Pass Abel.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Oil located .82 miles W SW of the northern tip of Grand Terre.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Thick oil located 2 miles NW of St Mary's point in N Barataria Bay.
Date: 18 Jun 10
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:09 am to Mudminnow
I think it would be more accurate to say certain components of the oil evaporate. After a the evaporation of those components the oil is less toxic than it was initially.
It is also a fact that oil isn't highly toxic to begin with. Toxic components yes but it isn't toxic like some touch you it harms or kills you type of substance.
After it evaporates what will evaporate microbes which live in the gulf who have evolved to eat oil will more slowly eat the oil and then it will be gone.
A year after this oil leak is stopped an oil remaining will be pretty hard to find. This isn't the Antarctica where things last for freaking ever.
It is also a fact that oil isn't highly toxic to begin with. Toxic components yes but it isn't toxic like some touch you it harms or kills you type of substance.
After it evaporates what will evaporate microbes which live in the gulf who have evolved to eat oil will more slowly eat the oil and then it will be gone.
A year after this oil leak is stopped an oil remaining will be pretty hard to find. This isn't the Antarctica where things last for freaking ever.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:11 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:
Where is all the oil going??
EXACTLY!! Where is it going? Until you answer that -- how can you possibly believe "everything is going to be ok"???
Before you jump to your oblivious expert opinion Oil Spill analysis -- you should do serious research of the term 'red tide'. It is just a matter of time before the Gulf area starts experiencing 'unexplained' fish kills. Sure, there may be no oil 'visible'... but if oxygen levels get depleted, marine life dies.
You've been on this board for 2 months with your head-in-the-sand statements. Will time stop and the entire universe end -- or course not. But if you SERIOUSLY believe life in the Gulf region is not going to be negative impacted for years -- you are either a deliriously unrealistic person or a moron.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:19 am to TxHillsTiger
Lack of Oxygen from the oil spill isn't likely to happen. This has been going on for 2 months now and none of the oxygen levels have dipped low enough to be deadly to sea life.
Lets see the annual dead zone should be forming now and I bet the news media blame that on the oil.
The dead zone forms every year and it doesn't have much of an impact. Any dead zone formed by the oil will have even less of an impact!
Lets see the annual dead zone should be forming now and I bet the news media blame that on the oil.
The dead zone forms every year and it doesn't have much of an impact. Any dead zone formed by the oil will have even less of an impact!
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:28 am to omegaman66
quote:
Lack of Oxygen from the oil spill isn't likely to happen.
Link?
quote:
Any dead zone formed by the oil will have even less of an impact!
Link? From the top scientists who study hypoxia, the oil will have an impact but the severity is unknown.
Please read Jewett et al 1996 a study dealing with hypoxia events after oil spills(Exxon Valdez).
Jewett, SC, TA Dean, DR Laur. (1996). Effects of the Exxon Valdex oil spill on benthic invertebrates in an oxygen-deficient embayment in Prince William Sound, Alaska. American Fisheries Society Symposium, 18
There are only a handful of studies that compared the effects of hypoxia and oil spills. Others show that if the stresses occur together, the effects of both are exacerbated.
This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 11:39 am
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:47 am to Mudminnow
quote:
the oil will have an impact but the severity is unknown.
Exactly! So why jump to conclusions with no evidence to show that we are going to lose everything? I cant prove to you that we aren't, but I can prove to you as of today (day 60) that what we do know about the impact it has been minimal. Bottom line is, we just dont know and until there is some solid evidence that the GOM is dead forever, I will continue to keep shining a positive light on the reality of this ordeal.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 11:53 am to omegaman66
quote:
A year after this oil leak is stopped an oil remaining will be pretty hard to find.
Now that is tragic. Do you really think this? Seriously?
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:09 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
but I can prove to you as of today (day 60) that what we do know about the impact it has been minimal
How do you know that? Have you taken an ROV along the seafloor to inspect? Been in workshops with top scientists from around the country?
They are still dealing with ecological ramifications from the exxon valdez spill years later.
How do we know its been minimal? BP has been restricting access to researchers and even confiscating samples.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:41 pm to Mudminnow
Would all of yall just quit bitching and agree no one knows anything yet and wont know for sometime. The amount of oil that has made landfall is minimal which is good news and beyond that no one has proof of anything. All yall have is opinions and you the saying for those. And he hes right there is not a lot of oil that is being seen. Around the actual leak site there was but it has grown less and less each day.
This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:27 pm to GREENHEAD22
cpt, you are pushing a rope.
they believe what they want b/c it serves to ease their worries.
the marine ecosystem is likely fricked, but until they "see" it, everything will be fine. I have argued ad nauseum with tgr and he continues to poke his head in the sad and GREENHEAD goes by what amount of fish swimming activity he witnesses off his platform.
you are obvious well versed in the topic and i am in total agreement in the probable ecosystem fallout.
but, for the sake of their argument, let's wait until the first sparce fishing harvest next year is thoroughly tested by the EPA and deemed too toxic for human consumption.
If you hear a Tiger in your closet and he has not busted out to eat you, are you safe? He will come out eventually. Tigers get hungry.....sticking a Ritz under the door every now and then will only work for so long.
they believe what they want b/c it serves to ease their worries.
the marine ecosystem is likely fricked, but until they "see" it, everything will be fine. I have argued ad nauseum with tgr and he continues to poke his head in the sad and GREENHEAD goes by what amount of fish swimming activity he witnesses off his platform.
you are obvious well versed in the topic and i am in total agreement in the probable ecosystem fallout.
but, for the sake of their argument, let's wait until the first sparce fishing harvest next year is thoroughly tested by the EPA and deemed too toxic for human consumption.
If you hear a Tiger in your closet and he has not busted out to eat you, are you safe? He will come out eventually. Tigers get hungry.....sticking a Ritz under the door every now and then will only work for so long.
This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:33 pm to CptBengal
quote:
I am a biological oceanographer,
True or false, if this becomes a Gulf wide "disaster"(like many on here think it will) it will directly increase your ability to make money.
Ex: Grants, contracts for research, etc..
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:34 pm to CharlesLSU
Oo Charles so good to see you again, so do you have any proof for me yet or are we still relying on your overwhelming expertise about the situation. And dont give those fricking reports about Valdez, thats like comparing apples to oranges.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:37 pm to GREENHEAD22
well, I have gotten word that fisherman all throughout southeast LA to Pensacola FL are expecting an excellent harvest this year!
son, you've gone beyond ignorance.......care to guess where that squarely puts you?
son, you've gone beyond ignorance.......care to guess where that squarely puts you?
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:38 pm to Bussemer
quote:
True or false, if this becomes a Gulf wide "disaster"(like many on here think it will) it will directly increase your ability to make money.
We don't get paid like that. Honestly I don't have much interest in environmental toxicology on larvae. I'm more interested in physiological mechanisms driving recruitment, particularly to areas where there is difficulty in recruitment of those larvae. This whole thing trashed a project of mine, has fricked up 2 other grants and is gonna send me into a field of study I didn't really want to go into. All that will happen is there will be more scientists doing more work. I can only work on so many projects at once. The scope and questions of those projects will change, but I will not make more money.
I had grants, etc...anyway all that changes is the questions we ask when conducting the research. Unfortunately research is a very time consuming process. Time is the limiting factor. I could potentially make more money by doing more grants...but i still haven't found out how to get more than 24 hours in a day.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:38 pm to GREENHEAD22
And Charlie until you bring me proof or I see the destruction first hand I will stick with history, facts, and what I can see myself.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:40 pm to Bussemer
quote:
True or false, if this becomes a Gulf wide "disaster"(like many on here think it will) it will directly increase your ability to make money.
Ex: Grants, contracts for research, etc..
cpt, this will be where the freakboard rejects label you as having a greedy agenda, thereby negating your intense training/exposure on the topic.
Posted on 6/21/10 at 1:40 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:
And Charlie until you bring me proof or I see the destruction first hand I will stick with history, facts, and what I can see myself.
....how's the commercial fishing season this year?
Page 2 of 4
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News