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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:56 am to
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:56 am to
I agree. I’m guessing the new powers that be wanted to make an audible and keep the title on reigns
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:59 am to
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I think Rhodes should have won after the channeled his inner Dusty.


Also him losing to the top heel is the most inner Dusty thing he could possibly do.

Its literally called a Dusty Finish
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:20 am to
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I think now you'll start to see the story go into resolution mode finally culminating at next years mania with him losing, potentially to Cody.


This is where you're going to lose people. The guy has had the belts for almost three years and keeps winning the same way. It's old and tired at this point. They did it to Drew, they sort of did it to Sami (although that would've been tough right before Wrestemania) and now they've done it to another guy that had a ton of steam. I don't care about watching this go on for another year.
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Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:27 am to
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Also him losing to the top heel is the most inner Dusty thing he could possibly do.


I think you have a good point....last night was classic Dusty Rhodes booking. It does make you wonder how much of a hand, if any, Vince had in this.

Think back to all the past Wrestlemanias....the biggest thing is "Hogan must pose." Extrapolated to mean the biggest babyface has to ultimately go over. Historically speaking that has happened consistently at WM. Who was in charge at all those Mania's? It was Vince. So if you really think about it what happened last night wasn't typical Vince booking for Mania.

It makes you wonder if HHH and Cody have bigger plans for this story.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:30 am to
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I don't care about watching this go on for another year.


But they know and you know, you'll watch

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bigger plans


The money with cody is in the chase. Him getting hurt last year may have pushed back the booking of the story. The still had him in this spot because the rock said no and no one else made sense maybe.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:41 am to
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But they know and you know, you'll watch


Actually, no. Like I said before, I went without this for almost twenty years. I'll just stop watching again. Braves just started back anyway.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:53 am to
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The money with cody is in the chase.


At some point you have to have the good guy win though.

Rocky 2 was so good because Rocky finally got over the hump after proving in Rocky 1 that he was able to hang with the champ.

I suppose they could continue to go this way as for all intents and purposes the match made Cody look extremely strong and Roman extremely reliant on those around him.

At this point, if you want a clean match you are going to have to put it in a cage. Or do what WCW did so long ago... have the rings surrounded by all the faces in the company so that the heels couldn't get a cheap upper hand.



I just think a better story would be Usos losing the tag team belts, roman losing the big belts... Roman disappearing... the Usos and Solo trying to hold the family together without leadership... they have internal struggles. These internal struggles are cemented when Cody, Zayn, and Owens create their own makeshift "face" stable.

Have the leftover Bloodline members slowly start to figure out life without Reigns.. They can start having success again, regain the tag titles... maybe put a smaller title on Solo...

Then the return of Reigns... he comes back thinking he will take over the bloodline but soon realizes the the family is fine without him. Ego/power struggles... Usos and Solo learning they don't need Reigns....

Maybe have one of the members of the Bloodline win MITB

Book Rhodes-Reigns 2 for Wrestlemania 40. Rhodes or Roman wins who cares its a toss up for whatever the fans want.... then have MITB winner storm in and get a cheap win.

Cody and Reigns both left confused on direction of sport... they bond a bit and begin to respect one another. They give some assists to each other in promos and matches...

Go from there
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
5538 posts
Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:54 am to
Cody winning would have been satisfying.

Roman winning allows them to more fully develop/complete the bloodline story. Alot of ways that you can go with it for sure.

I think the emergence of Sami has them considering he be the one to take the belt off Roman
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24415 posts
Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:57 am to
Also bring back ridiculously juiced up wrestlers. I don't like all these plush looking bodies.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:06 am to
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Also bring back ridiculously juiced up wrestlers.


Good luck with that.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:07 pm to
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Its literally called a Dusty Finish

Not really
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The finish has had multiple variations over the years, but the most common version centers around the referee being hit and knocked out and a substitute referee coming in and eventually declares a clean pinfall or submission win. At this point the original referee is revived and reverses the decision, declaring a disqualification from either the hit on himself or another incident, like an illegal wrestling move or toss out of the ring. A full version of the finish would take place in a championship match, in which the champion causes the infraction and the challenger scores the pinfall, only to have the original referee disqualify the champion, thus depriving the challenger of the title since it can't change hands that way.
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:12 pm to
Even with the stupidity and the bullshite excuse he gave for the ME, I'm glad HHH is staying in charge of creative.
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It's official. WWE has reached a deal with Endeavor and will form a new, huge company that includes the UFC.

There's a company-wide meeting at 4 PM EST (per Wrestlenomics), and an e-mail was distributed internally stating that Triple H will remain WWE's chief content executive. Those that we spoke to in WWE were adamant that even if Vince McMahon is involved in the "top levels of creative," Triple H will be the person in Gorilla position leading the charge. We specifically asked about Vince McMahon saying he "wouldn't be in the weeds" anymore with creative, since he said the same thing four years ago when Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman were put in creative roles to oversee Raw and Smackdown.

There is expected to be a talent meeting soon, and Triple H is rumored to kick off Raw.

WWE creative has been adamant they haven't interacted directly with Vince McMahon creatively, and higher ups say he likes the process of how things are now, though the exact level of his involvement was not revealed to us. They did say that Triple H is still overseeing creative, and Vince McMahon is around as a resource if needed.

We asked if a looming deal had anything to do with Roman Reigns retaining the championship over Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania and were told "absolutely not."

The speculation within WWE is that Vince McMahon found a suitor that would keep him involved or re-integrate him if he chose, despite insisting that he'd be happy to sell to a partner that didn't want him involved. Sources from several rumored suitors told us Vince's involvement would be a hurdle, and WWE has proven they can and have been more successful without him.

WWE sources indicated to Fightful that a big part of the deal was the company's desire to expand internationally. Especially as it pertains to international television rights, site fees and the like that they're looking to increase. There are rights fees negotiations in the UK that WWE is seeking to make more money off of and increase visibility. They're also looking to increase their rate cards domestically as they feel they should be earning even more on their television deals.

WWE sources were also adamant that they're not planning on expanding PLE shows into an a la carte PPV situation again for the time being. They noted that anything is possible, but it would have to be a deal so huge that they couldn't turn it down, and are cognizant of being shortsighted as it relates to the future of PLE/PPV and where it's going.

We were also told it was not an accident that hiring slowed down in recent months, almost to a complete halt. When we asked about potential looming cuts, we weren't given a definitive answer one way or the other.
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