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re: WWE Monday Night Raw Thread: UK Tournament (2 PM WWEN) Edition

Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:20 pm to
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I can't get NJPW on my cable lineup. I might be inclined to check it out if I could but I'm not going to pay to watch it.


If you view your time as having value, you’re cheating yourself by wasting it on weekly, main roster, WWE drivel and missing the NJPW shows and tourneys. The annual G1 climax tournament is about to start soon, and it’s just amazing television.

I digress. The WWE network is awesome value for weekly NXT/Takeover alone. Raw and SD! Are best enjoyed the next day on commercial free Hulu unless something big is going down.

ETA: the term “Indy wrestling” almost implies minor league to the casual fan. If you throw out NXT, which ironically enough is the WWE “Indy” product, nothing the WWE produces can come close to the product in Japan right now. Dominion was 5 hours long and it felt like 2 hours. I honestly can’t stress enough if you spend a few hours a week watching WWE, you really owe it to yourself to see NJPW. It’s not Ring of Honor or TNA.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:20 pm to
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sms151t

Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:24 pm to
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If you view your time as having value, you’re cheating yourself by wasting it on weekly, main roster, WWE drivel and missing the NJPW shows and tourneys. The annual G1 climax tournament is about to start soon, and it’s just amazing television

see I won't go this far

each company has their own idea for their product... and both have very good performers doing very good work

do I wish WWE would change things some times... sure

just like NJPW did what I think they've NEEDED to do for a while now... take the heavyweight title off of Okada (thought Naito should've won it at WK)... but Omega has deserved that belt and I'm so happy he has it now... just like I'm sure I'll be ecstatic when Braun finally gets the Universal Title
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:24 pm to
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so tonight on Raw we get the rematch between Rollins & Ziggler for the Intercontinental Championship


I smell a Drew McIntyre interence incoming. With that, that said feud will lead into both of them being included in the Extremes Rules match and then continuing at SummerSlam. Rollins winning SummerSlam match and interjecting himself in the Universal Title picture.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:26 pm to
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but Omega has deserved that belt and I'm so happy he has it now..


o/u 1.5 years Omega is in WWE. It’s inevitable.
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:30 pm to
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o/u 1.5 years Omega is in WWE. It’s inevitable


Over easy. Not even close. He might come eventually, but I’d be more surprised to see him in WWE within 1.5 years than I would to see him not come at all.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:30 pm to
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o/u 1.5 years Omega is in WWE. It’s inevitable.

WWE actively helping promote the "Elite vs. New Day" video game thing definitely caught my eye

and then WWE finding a Kenny Omega video in their tape library and putting it up on their WWEN collections raised my eyebrows even more

WWE's doing more and more with independents... something will come from this

ETA: in fact... ESPN just sent a push notification about an article on the bolded topic not even 5 minutes ago
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:32 pm to
Where there’s smoke.....

They aren’t putting the spotlight on him just to be nice.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:36 pm to
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Where there’s smoke.....

They aren’t putting the spotlight on him just to be nice.

oh I know

you think WWE & NJPW would ever put on some kind of supershow like WCW used to?

That's what helped build the event that's now Wrestle Kingdom
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:38 pm to
Good evening
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:40 pm to
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see I won't go this far

each company has their own idea for their product... and both have very good performers doing very good work


That’s an oversimplification at best. I’m 31. Id much rather watch something tuned to my age group. People can watch NJPW or not. I still watch the WWE PPVs even though I think Vince doesn’t care two craps about whether I’m enjoying it. I think people are robbing themselves of enjoyment if they refuse to try NJPW out, especially if they watch WWE weekly.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:41 pm to
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there's a video on WWE.com about it... reported by the lovely Cathy Kelly
She is a very talented reporter lady person.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:42 pm to
New Japan is way more entertaining the wrestling is good. They actually push the limit. Plus they have great post match interviews
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:46 pm to
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If you view your time as having value, you’re cheating yourself by wasting it on weekly, main roster, WWE drivel and missing the NJPW shows and tourneys. The annual G1 climax tournament is about to start soon, and it’s just amazing television.
I've watched stuff that I was told was the greatest wrestling stuff ever and I just didn't get it. For example, the first Sami vs. Nakamura match. I was told that was such a great match and I watched it and I just didn't see it. I've watched NXT a few times before. I've been told NXT was the greatest thing ever. I just don't see it when I watch.

There is some of the main roster WWE stuff that is bad but I wouldn't call the whole thing drivel and I'm really skeptical of the idea that it sucks and NJPW is the greatest thing ever.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:46 pm to
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That’s an oversimplification at best. I’m 31. Id much rather watch something tuned to my age group. People can watch NJPW or not. I still watch the WWE PPVs even though I think Vince doesn’t care two craps about whether I’m enjoying it. I think people are robbing themselves of enjoyment if they refuse to try NJPW out, especially if they watch WWE weekly.

I completely understand... BTW I'm 33

I guess Vince's idea is 3 > 1

appeal to kids and get the parents as well... or get dad only

he dabbled in the "dad only" model in the attitude era... it was the right time for that in wrestling I guess

now... he helps keep dad's attention with Alexa & Mandy & Becky
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Where there’s smoke.....

They aren’t putting the spotlight on him just to be nice


I’m sure WWE would kill to have Kenny Omega. I’m sure it burns Vince’s arse a ton to see the praise NJPW is getting. I’m sure they can back up the Brinks truck with the new TV deals in ways NJPW can’t. Omega freaking loves Japan though. He’s a gamer first and a wrestler second passion wise. Lastly, people are reading way too much into all this going on. What does the WWE have to lose by spotlighting the Elite? NJPW is not a threat to them. Xavier Woods basically begged people at E3 to stir the pot and make noise to get the cross promotion match going. WWE gauging interest is not this crazy concept.

And regarding the bolded text and ESPN, the WWE is airing a UK show on its network today...
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Plus they have great post match interviews

Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:51 pm to
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BTW I'm 33
I'm somewhat a little slightly older but just a smidge.
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