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re: WTF is Friendsgiving?

Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17362 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:51 pm to
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WTF is Friendsgiving?

An attempt to marginalize normal people.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:52 pm to
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An attempt to marginalize normal people.
How so?
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70441 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:54 pm to
I love when people get fake outraged over some trivial shite.

They aren’t getting rid of thanksgiving. They both are a thing.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:54 pm to
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An attempt to marginalize normal people.


How?

How is it marginalizing "normal people" when some choose to have a separate gathering with friends IN ADDITION TO spending Thanksgiving with their families? Is it because they coined a catchy name for it? Is it because they do it on a different day? Would you prefer people be forced to choose between spending Thanksgiving with their families verses spending it with their friends? They're not taking away from Thanksgiving, they're adding an extra party with friends a day or two before or after to take advantage of everyone being in town that time of year.

I truly do not understand the negative reaction to "Friendsgiving" as a concept.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:59 pm to
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I truly do not understand the negative reaction to "Friendsgiving" as a concept.

And I truly do not understand your belligerently angry reaction to anyone who replies to you, even when they mostly agree.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:02 pm to
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I don’t think it’s meant to be political, I think it’s just something people started doing to celebrate with friends they actually like before doing Thanksgiving with their families


It’s not at all political, amazing some people cannot turn that off ever in their miserable lives. I’m having one with friends in a couple weeks and we do so every year. Same right before everyone heads out for Christmas holidays. Just a bunch of friends contributing to the potluck and enjoying each other’s company before we also do the same with our families.

I suppose those who don’t have many friends since they haven’t left a 10 mile radius from where they were born wouldn’t understand. It never struck me as a hard concept to grasp.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17362 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:05 pm to
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How is it marginalizing "normal people" when some choose to have a separate gathering with friends IN ADDITION TO spending Thanksgiving with their families? Is it because they coined a catchy name for it? Is it because they do it on a different day? Would you prefer people be forced to choose between spending Thanksgiving with their families verses spending it with their friends? They're not taking away from Thanksgiving, they're adding an extra party with friends a day or two before or after to take advantage of everyone being in town that time of year.

Whoa, that’s a lot of words. You can celebrate Friendsgiving every weekend, I don’t care. I was just alluding to how it’s co-opted and used as a virtue signal by the usual suspects.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:05 pm to
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And I truly do not understand your belligerently angry reaction to anyone who replies to you, even when they mostly agree.


There is no anger. I was just trying to point out that citing Lincoln doesn't undermine my argument that it's not a religious holiday because Lincoln started it, but whatever man. I wish you no ill will.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60058 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:07 pm to
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So you don't believe in Christmas and Easter, then!?

KB: No, because those holidays are in the Bible.


They're literally not in the Bible. Literally. As in the literal meaning of the word literally.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60058 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:09 pm to
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It literally says to set aside the day as a thanksgiving to the Christian God.




But it's not a religious holiday, man. Kingbob is smarter than everyone one of us, and he says so.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60058 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 pm to
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it's not a religious holiday because Lincoln started it,


Lincoln didn't "start" it.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 pm to
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There is no anger.
Yes, there is.
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I was just trying to point out that citing Lincoln doesn't undermine my argument that it's not a religious holiday because Lincoln started it
It is up to each denomination to declare it a religious holiday. Many US churches do officially celebrate it as such, citing Lincoln's own words.
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I wish you no ill will.

Why would you, and what does that have to do with anything?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:14 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Whoa, that’s a lot of words. You can celebrate Friendsgiving every weekend, I don’t care. I was just alluding to how it’s co-opted and used as a virtue signal by the usual suspects.


It's celebrated around Thanksgiving because that's when the people you celebrate it with all happen to be in the same place.

Friendsgiving was popularized by people who moved away from their hometowns and rarely visit outside of Thanksgiving, so they have a separate gathering with their friends around the same time because all their friends are actually there doing the same thing. Every other weekend of the year, all of those friends are scattered around the country living in different cities.

At my last similar gathering (as I previously stated, I usually do something similar between Christmas and New Years and don't call it "Friendsgiving"), about 1/3 of the people there still lived within an hour of where they grew up, but the other guests were just in town for the holidays.

From my small town in South Louisiana, my friends had since scattered to L.A., Denver, Houston, St. Louis, Seattle, DC, and New York. But, Christmas is one of the few times when they're mostly all in town, so we take advantage of that holiday tradition to have a separate gathering. A lot of folks do the same thing with Thanksgiving, and someone coined a name for it. That's literally it.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:13 pm to
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They're literally not in the Bible.


The event that inspired the holiday is in the Bible, the Birth of Christ. That's why there are Christmas masses where they read the Gospel scriptures about the Birth of Christ.

The same is true for Easter and even Passover.

The event which inspired Thanksgiving was not a Biblical event, but one from American colonial history. It's not a holiday rooted in a Biblical tradition, but a historical one, hence why it's celebrated outside of the church, and nowhere outside of North America.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:16 pm to
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nowhere outside of North America.

You think no culture in history outside of North America has ever held a harvest feast in thanks to whatever gods they believed in?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60058 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:17 pm to
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The event that inspired the holiday is in the Bible, the Birth of Christ. That's why there are Christmas masses where they read the Gospel scriptures about the Birth of Christ.


You don't say.

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The same is true for Easter and even Passover.


You don't say.

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The event which inspired Thanksgiving was not a Biblical event, but one from American colonial history. It's not a holiday rooted in a Biblical tradition, but a historical one, hence why it's celebrated outside of the church, and nowhere outside of North America.


"It" (it being various thanksgiving observances) is celebrated outside North America. Just stop with what you're doing. It's dumb.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68466 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:19 pm to
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You think no culture in history outside of North America has ever held a harvest feast in thanks to whatever gods they believed in?


They all do, but they're not Thanksgiving. Germany has Oktoberfest, but no one would confuse those traditions for Thanksgiving. They're completely separate holidays from different cultures. Also, there's no Oktoberfest in the Church because it's a national holiday there and not a religious one.

If it were a religious holiday, all cultures who share that religion would celebrate it with at least some common traditions on pretty much the same day, you know, like literally every other religious holiday on the Church Calendar.

You wouldn't say Cinco de Mayo is a religious holiday just because it includes giving thanks, would you?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:20 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81721 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:19 pm to
Friends gathering together to break bread. Must really suck to A) not have friends or B) not want to enjoy each other's company over dinner.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11568 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:24 pm to
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If it were a religious holiday, all cultures who share that religion would celebrate it with at least some common traditions on pretty much the same day, you know, like literally every other religious holiday on the Church Calendar.
You "literally" said Thanksgiving is not celebrated outside of North America. That is "literally" wrong.

This is also a gross misunderstanding of the term "religious holiday" and what religion generally means at all.

Many religious people don't necessarily ascribe to your "Church Calendar" (purposely capitalized).
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60058 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:25 pm to
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They all do, but they're not Thanksgiving. Germany has Oktoberfest, but no one would confuse those traditions for Thanksgiving.


Oh for Christ's sake. Germany also has Erntedankfest.

Just stahp.
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