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re: WSJ: LSU's Lazy River and the Student-Fee Sham

Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:11 pm to
Or youre a liar in addition to being stupid.

Which one is more likely?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:13 pm to
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But that doesn't mean I'm wrong. In fact, I'm not wrong.


While providing no evidence? Humanities for sure
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:13 pm to
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No, but that doesn't mean they don't consistently go up. I figured most people knew that was true. Projects like the lazy river are one of the ways that universities justify constant fee increases. In other words, the WSJ is right.


This is a completely different arguement than you originally made. You were proven wrong so you changed the subject. This is an idea I could maybe get behind, but you blew all credibility by going full retard on something you knew absolutely nothing about.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Or youre a liar in addition to being stupid.

Which one is more likely?


Have you ever considered you are just being defensive? I'm sorry, but LSU isn't infallible.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:14 pm to
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This is a completely different arguement than you originally made.


No, it isn't. It is the same argument.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Humanities for sure


Incorrect. Not sure where such a link could be tracked down. I suppose we could collect data by surveying LSU students over time, but that wouldn't fit within the scope of this thread, would it?
Posted by waiting4saturday
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:15 pm to
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So maybe 5% of the student population in a single year voted to increase fees for all students forever? Seems fair.


So is trump not president to the people who decided not to vote?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Have you ever considered you are just being defensive? I'm sorry, but LSU isn't infallible.


LSU didn't vote for, or approve the lazy river. I know you're not faculty if you don't understand that basic difference

The student body did.

Fail again, imbecile.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
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So is trump not president to the people who decided not to vote?



People who had no possibility of voting will continue to pay for the facility long after the people who voted have graduated.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
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No, it isn't. It is the same argument


First you said the fee doesn't go away. That is not correct, people have proven that. Then you said schools fee increases out pace the need due to inflation, etc. The second part I believe, but the first part (that you started with and called people stupid for not believing you) is patently false.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:17 pm to
So you think a degree from LSU is a joke. Clearly for that reason you would never allow you kids to go there. Remind me again why you care so much about a non-material fee increase?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:17 pm to
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LSU didn't vote for, or approve the lazy river. I know you're not faculty if you don't understand that basic difference

The student body did.


A student referendum is simply an administrative tactic.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29590 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:18 pm to
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People who had no possibility of voting will continue to pay for the facility long after the people who voted have graduated.


People who had no possibility of voting will be subject to the new tax laws that are subject to pass next week. I'm not sure of your point.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:18 pm to
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So you think a degree from LSU is a joke. Clearly for that reason you would never allow you kids to go there.


Uh, no. When did I say that? Somebody else said that, not me.

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Remind me again why you care so much about a non-material fee increase?



(1) This isn't limited to LSU. (2) It contributes to the rising costs of a college degree.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:18 pm to
WSJ is trash.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:19 pm to
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A student referendum is simply an administrative tactic.



False.

But keep trying to salvage something here. You just continue to embarrass yourself
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:20 pm to
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People who had no possibility of voting will continue to pay for the facility long after the people who voted have graduated.




Yes. There is an operational fee that gives students full access.

Your point?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:20 pm to
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People who had no possibility of voting will be subject to the new tax laws that are subject to pass next week. I'm not sure of your point.


That's a fair point. But I would argue that citizenship and higher education are not the same things.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:20 pm to
The moment Txtiger realizes that throughout his entire life he has been subject to taxes and laws he never voted for.

ETA: yes life and higher education are different, but in this case they are very relatable. Students voted for a fee increase for a construction project. That is no different than a proposed tax increase to fund city construction projects.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:22 pm to
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False


No, it's true. It is used to provide justification for something they want to do. They drum up votes from the most involved students on campus who belong to student government and organizations. Most students don't vote in things like this, and if they understood the ramifications of the vote, they would probably vote "no."
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