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re: WSHH: Police Officer Shoots And Kills Unarmed Man During A Traffic Stop!
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:45 am to ninthward
Posted on 1/10/15 at 3:45 am to ninthward
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I think the cop fired too quickly
How can one rationally come to this decision? You can't see what the suspect is doing with his hands when they're not on the headrest in front of him. From the cop's vantage point, every time the suspect's left hand goes towards his waist, it's also out of the cop's view. He told him multiple times to put his hands where they could be seen. Also add in the fact that this suspect was known to have had a gun and committed a previous armed robbery with it.
Cop cannot take a chance in that case. Told him multiple times and he still didn't put his hands up and then he's motioning towards his waist too? Yeah, I'd have shot too.
What is this newly conceived notion that cops have to visibly see a weapon to feel threatened and why is the public stupid enough to believe that this is the case. Suspect's motions, especially ones towards a pocket or waistband will be perceived as a deadly threat and will be returned upon with force great enough to stop it.
ONCE AGAIN... Just do as your told when a cop tells you to do something and you'll go home with the same amount of holes that you started the day with. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about that.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 3:46 am
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Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:28 am to cdaniel76
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ONCE AGAIN... Just do as your told when a cop tells you to do something and you'll go home with the same amount of holes that you started the day with. I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about t
Do you consider Crispus Attucks to be an American hero?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:05 am to LSUFAN2005
Holy Fawk!!!!! That dude was acting like he was at the shooting range. 
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
He made a huge mistake...human. Sad.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:25 am to dagrippa
so shooting people because the officer "thinks he may shoot him with a gun" is the precedent that has been set?
scary world we now live in..
scary world we now live in..
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:35 am to Five0
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The video of that incident that will never be as popular:
Start at about the 4:30 mark.
Why should that be popular?
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:44 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Justified?
no.
not at all.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:49 am to cdaniel76
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Also add in the fact that this suspect was known to have had a gun and committed a previous armed robbery with it.
So a cop by himself pulls over a packed car with 4 people in it, one of them a known armed felon, and decides after the car is stopped, frick backup, I'm just going to go open their door and start yelling?
And that sounds like a good police decision? You wait for back up, get them out the car one by one, cuff them, then search them.
He decided to murder instead.
Whoever taught that cop his stop tactics should be fired as well.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:49 am to Breesus
"get your hands up or i'll kill you" isn't really how this whole thing is supposed to work
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:52 am to cdaniel76
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Just do as your told when a cop tells you to do something
Good sheep. The revolution will go easy on you.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:52 am to cdaniel76
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Also add in the fact that this suspect was known to have had a gun and committed a previous armed robbery with it.
Oh the cop knew who the guy in the rear passenger seat was when he pulled the car over? Or was that the driver?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:53 am to monsterballads
Well he did specifically state what was going to happen if he didn't put his hands up. The dude reached for his waistband multiple times. Was a known flight risk and suspected of a crime involving a gun. In hindsight he pulled the trigger too quickly but he gave the guy ample warnings and commands for this not to have happened
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:55 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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Well he did specifically state what was going to happen if he didn't put his hands up. The dude reached for his waistband multiple times. Was a known flight risk and suspected of a crime involving a gun. In hindsight he pulled the trigger too quickly but he gave the guy ample warnings and commands for this not to have happened
The cop never should have been in that situation in the first place.
So a cop by himself pulls over a packed car with 4 people in it, one of them a known armed felon, and decides after the car is stopped, frick backup, I'm just going to go open their door and start yelling?
And that sounds like a good police decision? You wait for back up, get them out the car one by one, cuff them, then search them.
He decided to murder instead.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 8:59 am to Breesus
Cool story but I wish you weren't a liar. The cop was yelling after the guy wouldn't comply. First he calmly asked names and then stated they were making him nervous.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:00 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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Cool story but I wish you weren't a liar. The cop was yelling after the guy wouldn't comply. First he calmly asked names and then stated they were making him nervous.
So a cop by himself pulls over a packed car with 4 people in it, one of them a known armed felon, and decides after the car is stopped, frick backup, I'm just going to go open their door
That cop is a fricking idiot and I have no idea why you would defend him.
This is how you handle the situation:
You wait for back up, get them out the car one by one, cuff them, then search them.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:00 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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Well he did specifically state what was going to happen if he didn't put his hands up.
So as long as the cop states what is going to happen ahead of time it's ok? "All four of you better put your fricking hands on the headrests or I'm gonna start fondling all your junk" wouldn't make it ok to then start fondling their junk anymore than it should've been ok for him to shoot this dude.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:00 am to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:
Well he did specifically state what was going to happen if he didn't put his hands up.
so cops can just shoot people for not putting their hands up?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:03 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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he calmly asked names and then stated they were making him nervous.
Then he shouldn't be a cop if that makes him nervous. I don't give a shite if you 'feel' nervous. Do your fricking job or quit. It's not the rest of the world's job to not make this guy nervous.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:06 am to monsterballads
This isn't new or anything. When a cop has you pulled over or has suspicion of a crime - I don't know all the bullshite legal terms - he has the right to detain you for a moment to search for weapons for the officer's protection. If you make multiple movements and that seem like you are going for a gun, ignore instructions, and there is reasonable suspicion of you having a gun then you may get shot.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:07 am to magildachunks
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If he'd have only complied.
Oh wait, seems like he did.
So compliance is now NOT doing what you are told? He was told to put his hands up, then put them on the seat back. The dude was rolling to his side and definitely NOT complying.
He was a known felon, a know meth head, and KNOWN to have shot someone the day before. Keep that in mind.
Here is a different angle post shooting...
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